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#1 edwin_su Jun 30, 2015 10:49:12	june_survey2015   This month, we’re activating a time machine and checking in to see what sort of content from prior editions you want to see adapted to fifth edition
#2 mellored Jun 30, 2015 11:06:20	They didn't have the warlord as an option...
#3 Ralif_Redhammer Jun 30, 2015 11:28:48	Thanks for the heads-up!   From the list of classes, there weren’t any I really wanted to have added back into the game. I guess I’m pretty happy with the options we currently have.
#4 Marandahir Jun 30, 2015 11:31:31	As the opposite from Ralif_Redhammer, I checked over half of the options they gave me, plus wrote in an additional race option – the Tuathan of 4e's Heroes fo the Feywild.
#5 Mistwell Jun 30, 2015 11:38:28	mellored wrote:
#6 SleepsInTraffic Jun 30, 2015 11:41:09	I went at length about how I really don't want them to screw up the thri kreen for balance concerns. They are a giant four armed bug that jumps real well and might be a little psionic. I suggested placing the possible psionics in a feat. However any race that has four functioning arms will make certain combos possible that people would call broken, but if it doesn't have four functioning arms it isn't a thri kreen.
#7 mrpopstar Jun 30, 2015 11:45:22	As a comment, I shared my opinion that the sorcerer and warlock stray too far from the core of 5th Edition in terms of mechanical expression, and that I'd like to see them revisited before adding more classes.
(Reply to #7) SleepsInTraffic	mrpopstar wrote:
#9 mrpopstar Jun 30, 2015 11:55:12	SleepsInTraffic wrote:
(Reply to #9) SleepsInTraffic	mrpopstar wrote:
(Reply to #2) bawylie	mellored wrote:
#12 Ralif_Redhammer Jun 30, 2015 12:14:38	I did pick the Shardmind for a return, though I added that I thought some of its basic core abilities (not breathing, eating, or sleeping) need to be rejiggered, as it made them immune to a larger number of threats than most other races. But other than that, I thought them a neat race that was pretty unique and should be brought back.   I agree with SleepsInTraffic on the Thri-Kreen. As cool as the insectoid race is, getting the balance right would be tricky.
(Reply to #12) SleepsInTraffic	Ralif_Redhammer wrote:
#14 mellored Jun 30, 2015 12:55:27	SleepsInTraffic wrote:
#15 Mistwell Jun 30, 2015 13:50:29	bawylie wrote:
#16 Eerongal Jun 30, 2015 13:54:42	Mistwell wrote:
#17 Nozareem Jun 30, 2015 15:09:41	Yo did they screwup on the swordmage and put swordsage?  But here's my list for comments of what they should have added    Please add the races of Shade, Half-Drow, Fey'ri, Chaos Soul Genasi that include Storm Soul.  Also for classes please please add SwordMage, Pyromancy, Nethermamcy, and the Red Wizard .   We already kinda got a Hexblade that's the a Warlock Blade Pact.  So it would kinda defeat the purpose to have another variation of the same idea.
#18 Gnarl Jun 30, 2015 15:17:35	This survey gives me so much hope!
#19 MechaPilot Jun 30, 2015 15:26:47	I was glad to see several of the monster races on the list.  There are two race options that I want above all the others that I didn't see on the list and had to write in though: monsters (such as medusas and dragons) as PCs, and Merfolk.
(Reply to #17) Satyrn	Nozareem wrote:
#21 Nozareem Jun 30, 2015 16:11:49	Satyrn wrote:
#22 BRJN Jun 30, 2015 16:39:21	class - Warlord - perhaps as an L3 sub-class.   background world - Classical Mythologies (Greek especially - I'm reading Bulfinch's Mythology right now)
#23 cbwjm Jun 30, 2015 18:14:20	I ended up marking none of the above for the classes although I did clarify that I'd be happy with sub-classes, none of the options stood out as needing their own singular class.   I liked that they had Mystara as an option, a fairly generic setting which would be easily adapted but I would like to see the WotC spin if they revived it.
(Reply to #23) Ashrym	cbwjm wrote:
#25 Zardnaar Jun 30, 2015 19:03:05	What Worlds did people vote for? Mine were.   Greyhawk Mystara Darksun FR    I owuld rather see Mystara over FR/GH as they were done in 3E and 4E Mystara has not had any love since around 1995.
(Reply to #2) DoctorBadWolf	mellored wrote:
(Reply to #2) Azzy1974	mellored wrote:
(Reply to #26) Ashrym	DoctorBadWolf wrote:
#29 Jenks Jun 30, 2015 20:42:43	I'm honestly convinced they should add the Warlord not because we need it, but because then maybe everyone will stop talking about it ><
#30 MechaPilot Jun 30, 2015 20:45:15	Zardnaar wrote:
#31 MechaPilot Jun 30, 2015 20:48:37	Jenks wrote:
#32 SilentSin Jun 30, 2015 20:53:54	No warlord.   No incarnum.   No binder.
#33 Nozareem Jun 30, 2015 21:02:44	My vote for worlds is Dark Sun and FR plus Ravenloft and Kara-Tur.  But since AL is all about Forgotten Realms we need a campaign book, for references and home brew campaigns.
#34 gmanjkd Jun 30, 2015 21:24:13	I voted for DS, Kara Tur, Ravenloft, Planescape, FR (cause I have never followed it until 5e came around) and HOLY CRAP I cant believe Spelljammer was even an option!  So yes, a world of yes I voted for Spelljammer.  LOL   Basically as mentioned by someone above, I voted for non standard midevil fantasy.
#35 Enevhar_Aldarion Jun 30, 2015 21:41:23	My big question about this survey, both for the choices for race and class that were on the list and those that were missing, is whether this survey is being done in time for the most popular options from these lists to be included in the free player option pdf that will come out with the Rage of Demons storyline. And are certain ones missing from this survey because they have already been chosen to be in that pdf and thus do not need to be part of a vote?
#36 lawrencehoy Jun 30, 2015 21:53:42	I voted for the settings that added the most unique races and options (Dark Sun, Dragonlance, Kara-Tur, Mystara, Planscape, Spelljammer); and, Greyhawk (just as a different typical fantasy world option).   I voted for the classes that gave me the most nostalgic tug (alchemist, cavalier, samurai, scout, shaman, & warmage).   I voted for the races that accomanied the settings I voted for; plus, some of the more original ones (like the Gith).
#37 lawrencehoy Jun 30, 2015 21:56:41	Enevhar_Aldarion wrote:
#38 SleepsInTraffic Jun 30, 2015 22:16:02	There is also no guarantee that rage of demons will come with a set of player options. Unless that's been confirmed somewhere, and I'm just way behind (totally possible).
#39 Shasarak Jun 30, 2015 22:35:56	Zardnaar wrote:
#40 Rya.Reisender Jul 01, 2015 0:00:58	As I'm not familiar with older editions, I just voted that I want all the settings but no new classes or races. The PHB offers enough races and classes for me, more would just be too complex, but there can never be enough settings.
#41 Enevhar_Aldarion Jul 01, 2015 0:08:49	SleepsInTraffic wrote:
#42 Ath-kethin Jul 01, 2015 0:24:56	I voted for Mystara, Spelljammer, and Eberron, with Hollow World as a write-in candidate. Like several people above, I likes me some non-standard fantasy options. I would like a better representation of the Eberron Artificer, a thri-kreen option, and an update of the Runecaster from the old Vikings sourcebook. I also asked (pleaded?) that pre-3e sources be adhered to for any updates; I was not happy with the WotC amendments to the kreen, for example. I have a roughly 0% chance of getting what I want, but I put my coppers in.
#43 Zardnaar Jul 01, 2015 2:41:19	Shasarak wrote:
#44 Shasarak Jul 01, 2015 2:52:04	Zardnaar wrote:
#45 frothsof Jul 01, 2015 3:23:23	I voted Birthright, Ravenloft, Greyhawk, Nentir Vale, shaman, artificer, shadar-kai, and vryloka
#46 lawrencehoy Jul 01, 2015 3:50:42	Ath-kethin wrote:
#47 Zardnaar Jul 01, 2015 3:59:10	lawrencehoy wrote:
#48 Swamp_slug Jul 01, 2015 5:31:27	SleepsInTraffic wrote:
(Reply to #47) AaronOfBarbaria	Zardnaar wrote:
(Reply to #41) SleepsInTraffic	Enevhar_Aldarion wrote:
#51 Ralif_Redhammer Jul 01, 2015 7:27:05	I voted for Forgotten Realms (because the core setting for 5e really needs a campaign sourcebook), Greyhawk, Planescape, Kara-Tur, and Spelljammer. I would’ve included Dark Sun, but they just did that with 4e. Of those, I think I’d be most excited to see Spelljammer’s return.
(Reply to #48) SleepsInTraffic	Swamp_slug wrote:
#53 ZHDarkstar Jul 01, 2015 9:20:21	I think providing the second part of Dual Wielder (remove light weapon restriction) would be a better balanced option to settle the four-arm mechanic. I don't want to see them end up like the aarakocra, aka too OP for AL use.
(Reply to #53) SleepsInTraffic	ZHDarkstar wrote:
#55 Ashrym Jul 01, 2015 10:24:07	I also voted Kara-Tur and Spelljammer, and had forgotten.
#56 MechaPilot Jul 01, 2015 13:27:44	SleepsInTraffic wrote:
#57 Mirtek Jul 01, 2015 13:58:47	I think providing the second part of Dual Wielder (remove light weapon restriction) would be a better balanced option to settle the four-arm mechanic. I don't want to see them end up like the aarakocra, aka too OP for AL use. I never want to see decisions made to suit Adventures League.
(Reply to #57) SleepsInTraffic	Mirtek wrote:
#59 MechaPilot Jul 01, 2015 15:22:02	SleepsInTraffic wrote:
(Reply to #59) SleepsInTraffic	MechaPilot wrote:
#61 gmanjkd Jul 01, 2015 16:14:29	You guys/gals are making me so happy. I thought I was the only person who wanted to see Spelljammer again. This gives me tons of hope. Thanks everyone
(Reply to #61) SleepsInTraffic	gmanjkd wrote:
#63 MechaPilot Jul 01, 2015 17:13:19	SleepsInTraffic wrote:
#64 lawrencehoy Jul 01, 2015 21:44:57	MechaPilot wrote:
#65 ZHDarkstar Jul 01, 2015 21:49:39	For some of us, the AL is the only available means of reliably playing D&D these days. Therefore, content that gets restricted by the ALPG might as well not even exist in the first place. It's a bit disheartening when I have to tell my players that they can't use all of the new player options because of balance issues.   I understand that a lot of the purists hate the notion of catering to the AL by sacrificing quality, which I can understand. However, the AL has earned its place in the 5e business model. The Expeditions provide enough new material in between book releases to keep people interested in the product.   I don't want to see classic races lose their touch as 5e player options, but I also don't want to have them be inaccessible to my players because they are unbalanced. (Although, I also wish that the AL let me use my DMG as more than just a magic item catalog.) I think that taking the Deep Gnome approach would probably work best, unlocking the full potential of the arms with a feat. Best part is that it's also an unintentional pun, getting the most out of your 4 arms at 4th level. :P
(Reply to #65) SleepsInTraffic	ZHDarkstar wrote:
#67 ZHDarkstar Jul 02, 2015 19:43:34	With stats like that, I doubt that a balanced PC race is even viable for the thri-kreen in 5e. I wouldn't allow anything with that much power in a home game.    Just because we had a litany of monstrous PC races in the past editions, that doesn't mean that 5e will include all of them. I would rather see WotC port more balanced PC races before attempting to convert a headache race like this. Two simpler races could probably be converted in the time spent working the minutia out of an unbalanced race. When we have more races that are balanced against each other, it'll become easier for the designers to come up with balanced conversions of unbalanced races.   We're still in Year One. No need to take on the hard stuff just yet. Just like with video game design, we gotta give the devs time to work with the system before they churn out masterpieces.
#68 MechaPilot Jul 02, 2015 19:54:57	SleepsInTraffic wrote:
#69 MechaPilot Jul 02, 2015 20:07:20	ZHDarkstar wrote:
#70 ZHDarkstar Jul 02, 2015 21:02:21	I didn't mean to equate monstrous race with OP race, just not to expect the same amount of options as editions past.
#71 MechaPilot Jul 02, 2015 21:13:54	ZHDarkstar wrote:
#72 lawrencehoy Jul 02, 2015 22:29:18	MechaPilot wrote:
#73 MechaPilot Jul 02, 2015 22:59:36	lawrencehoy wrote:
#74 mrfisk Jul 03, 2015 10:01:19	I voted for spelljammer, darksun, eberron, dragonlance and planescape. Didnt include any archetypes but the scout, should have included the Tome of Battles ones though. The only race was thri kreen, I think.
#75 SleepsInTraffic Jul 03, 2015 15:32:16	I seriously think they should hit up some spelljammer next. I've finally ran into some of the hard rules for spelljammer in the ad&d encyclopedia magica and it just seems like one of the most interesting settings.
#76 ZHDarkstar Jul 03, 2015 16:51:18	MechaPilot wrote:
#77 MechaPilot Jul 03, 2015 17:03:38	ZHDarkstar wrote:
#78 Shasarak Jul 03, 2015 17:19:20	MechaPilot wrote:
#79 MechaPilot Jul 03, 2015 17:51:05	Shasarak wrote:
#80 ssvegeta555 Jul 03, 2015 19:00:46	Planescape, that's the only setting I want. Make it happen WotC!
#81 Shasarak Jul 03, 2015 19:03:13	MechaPilot wrote:
#82 MechaPilot Jul 03, 2015 19:08:48	Shasarak wrote:
#83 Mecheon Jul 03, 2015 19:17:45	In regards to Thri Kreen, I suspect they'll go the 4E way and let them hold implements in their other arms.
#84 Shasarak Jul 03, 2015 19:25:52	MechaPilot wrote:
(Reply to #82) SleepsInTraffic	MechaPilot wrote:
#86 Mistwell Jul 03, 2015 22:17:05	SleepsInTraffic wrote:
#87 ankiyavon Jul 03, 2015 23:02:51	MechaPilot wrote:
#88 edwin_su Jul 04, 2015 0:01:38	ankiyavon wrote:
#89 Zardnaar Jul 04, 2015 2:42:37	edwin_su wrote:
#90 moonbeast Jul 04, 2015 2:47:38	It's really a shame that Wotc did not push out this survey BEFORE they actually released the 5th Edition Core Books.  Had they done that, they would have had more lead time to consider/develop/brainstorm what future books would follow the core rulebooks.    Now that 5th Edition is approaching 1 year old.... only now are they asking us what follow-up source books we would like to see?  Uhhh, and once the Answers are in, it will take them another 6 months to deliberate and sort through all of the decisions. And then another 6 months before they can hire and muster all the necessary authors, illustrators, artists, and writers to actually produce the new stuff.  And then another 6-9 months to actually write and produce and playtest the books. And then possibly another 6-8 months of wider Beta testing (like they did with NEXT).  And then another 3 to 4 months to send the final drafts to get produced by some professional printing company.   And voila!  It will be some 2-3 years (minimum) before any of these books actually hit retail shelves or Amazon.  Can you feel my optimism here?!
#91 Yunru Jul 04, 2015 9:46:47	http://community.wizards.com/forum/player-help/threads/4225481
#92 Mistwell Jul 04, 2015 9:54:23	Yunru wrote:
#93 SleepsInTraffic Jul 04, 2015 11:20:02	Our versions are incredibly similar except for the addition of standing leap, and the poisonous bite on mine and that his gets a better dex bonus. Everything else I had listed was trapped behind feats. The multiple attacks were trapped in a feat (and were a maybe at best, I acknowledged at some point that extra attacks are way more powerful than just being able to wield multiple items), the Telepathy and innate spellcasting were trapped behind feats, and they should still be there like the deep gnome's innate spellcasting feat. I'd be fine with trapping the bite attack behind a feat as well, because yeah it's nuts (I actually only included it in the second post becaus I wanted to illustrate all the abilities the race needs to have access to to keep the race consistent with the monster manual entry and that it having four arms was not the craziest thing there). I'd still want the standing leap in there at first level. I think thri kreen will end up having to make use of "racial feats" quite a bit. I also think their fluff greatly allows this. Their average life expectancy is 30. It could just be that the thri kreen generally become adventures before they've fully developed and some never even develop all the same abilities. I basically wanted to show that of the things that thri kreen need to have access to as a race (in order to keep them consistent with the ones on the monster manual) four arms that can all wield weapons and/or a shield isn't the strongest.
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#95 Hebitsuikaza Jul 04, 2015 13:24:09	I voted for a lot of things on the list...   I want to see as many of the unusual settings as possible brought forward. Spelljammer, Planescape, Ravenloft, Ebberon...   I too am aggrivated that they didn't even put Warlord on the list of classes to return. Psionist was missing too, wasn't it? Honestly, too many of those classes ought to be subclasses of existing classes anyway.   As for races... I am glad to see "Goblin", "Hobgoblin" and "Lizardfolk" on the list of things they will pretend to even consider and I really hope I am not the only one voting for those. Seriously, they had functional player versions from launch in 4E and it seems like there is far more opportunity for them to become PCs in normal game play than a lot of options. I really hope people didn't skip over those standard ones and choose only their favorite wonky ability ones.   Aasimar was on there too... rather weird given how it is already in the DMG.
#96 Mistwell Jul 04, 2015 14:32:03	SleepsInTraffic wrote:
#97 ZHDarkstar Jul 04, 2015 14:38:43	Hebitsuikaza wrote:
(Reply to #96) SleepsInTraffic	Mistwell wrote:
#99 MechaPilot Jul 04, 2015 15:58:07	Mistwell wrote:
#100 MechaPilot Jul 04, 2015 16:01:13	Hebitsuikaza wrote:
(Reply to #99) SleepsInTraffic	MechaPilot wrote:
#102 Mistwell Jul 04, 2015 17:25:45	SleepsInTraffic wrote:
(Reply to #101) Ashrym	SleepsInTraffic wrote:
#104 Mistwell Jul 04, 2015 18:04:12	Ashrym wrote:
(Reply to #104) SleepsInTraffic	Mistwell wrote:
#106 Ashrym Jul 04, 2015 20:04:06	Hunters with a criminal / spy background for the contact is generally one of the straight forward methods to access black market poison, and they can use it with whirlwind or volley attacks. For a racial ability, it should be on par with other racial abilities so it's probably better to move in that direction instead of the access concerns. Accessing decent poison isn't much of a concern, imo, because it exists easily enough.
#107 Mistwell Jul 04, 2015 23:18:34	SleepsInTraffic wrote:
#108 Coredump00 Jul 05, 2015 0:28:36	I know many folks here feel otherwise... but I greatly dislike monster PCs.  Typicial Medieval Fantasy does not have a bunch of monster PCs running around.  There might be 1-2 unexpected races.... but I really don't want DnD to be turned into Star Wars with a butt-ton of different PC races drinking in a tavern together.  Leave the monsters as monsters....
#109 Zardnaar Jul 05, 2015 1:33:42	And yet we could play a 4 armed poisonous kreen in Darksun circa 1991 and they got plus 5 AC bonus as well. And they wonder why some of us like AD&D.
#110 Zardnaar Jul 05, 2015 1:33:42	And yet we could play a 4 armed poisonous kreen in Darksun circa 1991 and they got plus 5 AC bonus as well. And they wonder why some of us like AD&D.
#111 Hebitsuikaza Jul 05, 2015 2:16:03	Coredump00 wrote:
(Reply to #107) SleepsInTraffic	Mistwell wrote:
(Reply to #111) Coredump00	Hebitsuikaza wrote:
#114 mellored Jul 05, 2015 11:05:39	Zardnaar wrote:
#115 gmanjkd Jul 05, 2015 11:20:33	ZHDarkstar wrote:
#116 MechaPilot Jul 05, 2015 11:29:23	Coredump00 wrote:
(Reply to #116) SleepsInTraffic	MechaPilot wrote:
#118 Hebitsuikaza Jul 05, 2015 12:12:13	Coredump00 wrote:
(Reply to #114) SleepsInTraffic	mellored wrote:
#120 MechaPilot Jul 05, 2015 12:27:55	mellored wrote:
#121 Zardnaar Jul 05, 2015 12:45:43	Hebitsuikaza wrote:
#122 MechaPilot Jul 05, 2015 12:43:05	Zardnaar wrote:
#123 Mistwell Jul 05, 2015 13:16:21	SleepsInTraffic wrote:
(Reply to #117) Coredump00	SleepsInTraffic wrote:
(Reply to #123) SleepsInTraffic	Mistwell wrote:
(Reply to #118) Coredump00	Hebitsuikaza wrote:
#127 Shasarak Jul 05, 2015 13:57:31	Coredump00 wrote:
#128 Shasarak Jul 05, 2015 13:58:46	MechaPilot wrote:
(Reply to #118) Azzy1974	Hebitsuikaza wrote:
#130 MechaPilot Jul 05, 2015 14:06:12	Coredump00 wrote:
#131 MechaPilot Jul 05, 2015 14:08:13	Shasarak wrote:
#132 mrpopstar Jul 05, 2015 14:20:34	Zardnaar wrote:
#133 Mistwell Jul 05, 2015 15:19:24	SleepsInTraffic wrote:
#134 FFSAA Jul 05, 2015 15:28:15	Hebitsuikaza wrote:
#135 mrpopstar Jul 05, 2015 16:15:43	FFSAA wrote:
(Reply to #133) SleepsInTraffic	Mistwell wrote:
#137 MechaPilot Jul 05, 2015 16:51:56	mrpopstar wrote:
#138 MechaPilot Jul 05, 2015 16:56:02	SleepsInTraffic wrote:
(Reply to #138) SleepsInTraffic	MechaPilot wrote:
(Reply to #138) Yunru	SleepsInTraffic wrote:
#141 Nozareem Jul 05, 2015 17:13:09	Ok if you guys are up in arms over what race is allowed in a tavern then yall are going to love next season in Hillfar AL Expedtions because all non-human races were exiled out of the city and are to be scrutinized against if they are in the city.  The only non - humans that are accepted really in the city are slaves.  So I can't wait to see that post with you guys!
#142 Grazel Jul 05, 2015 17:25:01	Azzy1974 wrote:
#143 Miladoon Jul 05, 2015 17:37:44	I like Mystara and I would not like WotC to redo it.  Spelljammer I liked and voted for.  It sits right there on the odd fringe and is easier to mess around with it without messing it up.  Please don't spellplague Mystara, WotC.   1980s indicators of the Known World tip towards moving away from eurocentric D&D.  But the hair and cleavage was all 80s.     Then again, we had lots of european stuff too...again....hair     EDIT:  Somewhat Ninja'd but I will add two for Azzy...ur, Grazel     I don't have the other two GAZ thumbnails of the dwarves and the American tribes GAZ
#144 MechaPilot Jul 05, 2015 17:39:41	Nozareem wrote:
(Reply to #140) SleepsInTraffic	Yunru wrote:
#146 mrpopstar Jul 05, 2015 18:02:07	MechaPilot wrote:
#147 Orethalion Jul 05, 2015 18:22:54	MechaPilot wrote:
#148 FFSAA Jul 05, 2015 20:51:35	mrpopstar wrote: