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| #1Varis235Jan 24, 2015 23:08:26 | Leomund ’s Tiny Hut 3rd-level evocation (ritual) Range: Self (10-foot-radius hemisphere) Components: V, S, M (a small crystal bead) Duration: 8 hours
We have a Bard who recently fell in love with this spell. While inside the hut a purple worm showed up, would the worm be able to burrow in? I have players disagreeing and I honestly don't know. Is there a floor to it? I would think not if I had to pick but again, can't be certain? |
| #2Coredump00Jan 25, 2015 3:04:26 | Huh....I would think the worm could burrow up. The spell would then immediately fail.
I'm hoping that he didn't 'just fall in love with it' because he just turned 5th level..... because if so, that purple worm is *really* mean...
I never looked at the 5e version of that spell.... I am completely bummed that it is no longer a hut. Leomunds Tiny Force Dome just isn't nearly as cool.... |
| #3AaronOfBarbariaJan 25, 2015 3:15:39 | The spell has never been an actual hut, but it was once actually a sphere rather than a dome if I remember correctly. I wouldn't think anything coming in from below would have any effect on the spell, but am away from book right now. |
| #4Coredump00Jan 25, 2015 7:01:32 | Wow, you are right. Now its going to bug me until I can remember what spell (or whatever) we were using back then to make an actual hut type place.... It may have just been something the DM made up... oh well...
The spell description is above, it says the spell fails if the area includes a larger than medium creature. I took that to include after it was cast, but I suppose it could only apply when you were casting it, and you could jam 50 people inside once its up. |
| #5AshrymJan 25, 2015 11:52:28 |
I allow burrowing under. If you are concerned about player disagreement then let them fall into to purple worm as the ground is excavated out from under them, they have nothing to stand on, and gravity wins again. Once the caster falls out of the dome area the spell also fails. |
| #6paulstraitJan 25, 2015 14:02:42 | The spell creates an impassable (to those not within the dome when the spell was cast) barrier "above and around you." Not under you, so burrowing would be an acceptable way in. |
| #7YunruJan 25, 2015 14:55:51 | And out, for the druid in the party. |
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| #9AaronOfBarbariaJan 25, 2015 15:48:53 | After having a chance to read the spell, I'm going with an interpretation that creatures can burrow into it from beneath (nothing even implies that there is a floor) but that the phrase "the spell fails if its area includes a larger creature or more than nine creatures" applies both at the time of casting and after the casting, because that makes the spell easier to apply consistently and the spell does not specify that phrase only applying during the casting. |
| #10YunruJan 25, 2015 15:51:39 | So Valor Bard with Swift Quiver and Leomund's? Hell yeah! |
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| #12Coredump00Jan 25, 2015 17:16:06 | WHat if you cast Animal Friendship on animal with Int3, then a few hours later it (somehow) gets boosted to Int 5..... does the spell still work? Or does it fail...? |
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| #15paulstraitJan 25, 2015 20:27:31 |
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| #16Coredump00Jan 25, 2015 22:30:40 | I'm not taking sides, just bringing up similar situations. |
| #17melloredJan 26, 2015 8:42:44 | Mathmaticly, Hemisphere includes the plane (i.e. the "floor"). "above and around" seems to me to imply all sides.
So the purple worm can't enter.
That said, if the ground drops out from under you (objects can freely leave), you fall out of the hut (assuming your arn't levitating or some such), and then the spell ends. |
| #18EggnogfoolJan 26, 2015 9:58:42 |
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| #19OoftaMegJan 26, 2015 11:00:43 | I can see it now, the player's are running away from a small army of orcs. Exhausted, they erect Leomund's Tiny Hut. Unfortunately the orcs find the hut ... and one of the orcs pulls out a shovel. |