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#1 Orzel Sep 23, 2014 4:40:43	Game title does end with "and dragons". Here are some starter discussion questions. Do you miss caster dragons? Would you like to see dragons with class features in the future? Would you like to see dragon based subclasses for more classes (dragon slayer ranger, oath of dragons paladin, way of the dragon monk, dragon pact warlock, dragonscarred fighter, circle of scales druid) in the future? Are brown dragons that awesome? New or returning kinds of dragons? Yes to all from me by the way. More dragons to kill and steal loot from!
#2 Arawn76 Sep 23, 2014 5:40:54	I want a Cerillian dragon fully stat'd up for me
#3 1eejit Sep 23, 2014 5:44:06	Spellcasting dragons are an existing variant described in the MM. I like them as-is.
#4 arnwolf666 Sep 23, 2014 6:14:43	All my dragons are power casters in my settings.
#5 iserith Sep 23, 2014 6:28:17	Orzel wrote:
#6 spelley Sep 23, 2014 6:34:10	Orzel wrote:
#7 autolycus Sep 23, 2014 6:53:37	I like Dragons as elemental and conecptual creatures. Perhaps even as the font of magic in my campaign world.   Dragon magic is, thus, closer to the "source" and is more pure than the diluted 'spells' utilized by lesser beings.   In my HotDQ, the opening scene is much more obvious in its origin. A lightning storm dominates the sky with ground strikes happening regularly. The blue dragon constantly crackles with barely contained energy. All spells that do Lightning damage are enhanced within a certain range of the dragon. Kobolds (little dragon worshipers) have their skin change color to match that of the dragon they follow when they are within a mile of the source.   Dragons should be like nothing else. They should be unique in their mechanics and their affect on the world around them.   Just this crusty old DM's view.
#8 Orzel Sep 23, 2014 7:32:57	I like dragons as powerful forces of raw elemental and natural magic. Also l like the selfish loners thing D&D pushes where every dragon thinks themselves as the head of the world only surpassed by actual deities and antagonistic to every other dragon. So I could see some upstarts utilizing some humanoid tactics to off older more powerful dragons if the climate gets crowded. Maybe concentrating their magic into sorcery. Or a less intelligent white picking up a fighter subclass.
#9 iserith Sep 23, 2014 7:34:13	autolycus wrote:
#10 Wuzzard Sep 23, 2014 7:40:58	Just auto-assume "and dragons" to every thread title and we'll be in business.
#11 Gnarl Sep 23, 2014 8:05:40	Orzel wrote:
#12 Slyck314 Sep 23, 2014 8:36:54	I'm both a little dissapointed and a little inrigued by Shadow Dragons becoming a template.
(Reply to #11) Orzel	Gnarl wrote:
#14 Gnarl Sep 23, 2014 9:48:42	Orzel wrote:
#15 Mechatarrasque Sep 23, 2014 10:04:00	Orzel wrote:
#16 sleypy Sep 23, 2014 10:06:25	Orzel wrote:
#42 Orzel Sep 24, 2014 10:20:14	Either bring bows or fight it in its lair.
#43 rampant Sep 24, 2014 10:28:52	Never fight a dragon in it's lair, bring bows and enough enlarge person potions to bulk up a small army.
#44 Sword_of_Spirit Sep 24, 2014 12:23:16	My take on the 12 age categories (which I like) compared to 5e's four is that those four are supposed encompass the 12. "Ancient" isn't equivalent to Ancient on the 12 category system, but rather it represents something like the last few age categories. My rough approximations of what they are going for is something along the lines of the following.   Wyrmling Wyrmling Very Young   Young Young Juvenile   Adult Young Adult Adult Mature Adult Old   Ancient Very Old Ancient Wyrm Great Wyrm   The idea that they are intentionally holding back the other categories, and that Great Wyrm or Juvenile is going to show up in some other book, for instance, is unlikely in my estimation. Great Wyrms are Ancient in the new system. There is no reason you can't add HD and bump up stats if you want to indicate that this dragon is really ancient, of course. And if you need dragons that are in-between categories you can do the same thing with earlier categories. Even 3e did that.   The question for me is whether the listed stats should represent the middle of the category, or the beginning of the category.
#45 Nesian42Ryukaiel Sep 24, 2014 16:52:24	Come to think of it, 5e dragons' breath weapons are no longer strictly "supernatural", rules-wise. Looks like they can blow off antimagic field protected casters laughing, now.   Albeit the Large size of the field means that caster dragons still have problems using it for their own protection, though...
#46 Mecheon Sep 25, 2014 2:43:10	Bring a bow to fight a dragon?   How quaint. Crossbows is the answer   Or, y'know, that time in World of Warcraft I fricking harpooned one out of the sky in a half-giant ceremony
#47 sleypy Sep 25, 2014 5:30:15	Mecheon wrote: