I saw this at Enworld: http://www.enworld.org/forum/content.php?2860-ORCUS!-EXCLUSIVE!-ESCAPIST!#.VeCt0flViko
Also interesting his the quote from Chris Perkins, who clarified that the PCs would not fight him directly, but that "Fortunately, Out of the Abyss gives characters the chance to amass a small army and also turn the demon lords against one another, thus weakening them. There are also a couple other ways to banish the demon lords back to the Abyss, which is the party's ultimate goal."
I sure hope Orcus can only create creatures whose combined hit points don't exceed 500 and not an infinite number of undead whose average hitpoints don't exceed 500 
Madness of Jubilex table huh?
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A few quick thoughts:
I like how the change the damage resistance to include all non-magical attacks, not just weapons. I'm going to impliment that on my epic monsters as well. However, in general I am not overwhelmed with this design. The wand of orcus doesn't have an instant death attack. I would have given it something like the Solar's Slaying Bow, but stronger. Also, I''ll need to check the DMG and chill touch, but the damage seems really low. If this is the general direction of the demon lords I have a lor of work to do!
That being said I do like the regional effects and undead summong abilities.
Finally, why is the wand of orcux +19 to hit? I assume they are adding the magic weapon bonus?
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Nicely brutal, thanks for posting this! He's not as deadly as he used to be, but he's got a greater variety of abilities.
I’ve had a soft spot for Orcus ever since a group in 1e killed him (or at least, banished him back to the Abyss). I’ve wanted to have a rematch, but no subsequent group has gotten high level enough to face him.
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It said combined Average nothing awkward about it.
It's really not that serious, I just mixed up the meaning the first time I read it and pictured my PCs surprise when they attempt to fight Orcus and he summons and infinite hoard of Undead. Would actually be a twisted way to end the AP.
Oh, you thought you could take on Orcus head on? Think again!
Again, just joking here, would probably, more than likely, possibly not do that to my PCs unless they really, really made me mad
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Like Tiamat he lacks the ability to teleport. It's kind of strange how the demon lords lose this ability that the highest non-lord demons gain
With a spcial ability called "Creeping Death", you can't go wrong. 
Overall, I find this to be an acceptable incarnation of the Prince of Undeath.
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Using his "500 hp undead) ability he could summon around 7 wraiths if my math is correct (67x7 is approximately 460?). Then, depending on initiative rules, he can set Creeping Undeath directly on top of players, allowing the Wraiths to deal double damage and reduce the hp of the target. All kinds of ouch.
Also, Chill Touch is 4d8 for Orcus, and prevents the target from regaining hp for that round. Meaning if he focus fires....
And he creates more undead, and he has some nasty high-level spells... dang...
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From the Sadistic DM Department: we need a contest to see who can conconct (and rationalize) the nastiest 500 HP worth of undead.
Love it Elfcrusher. I'd go with a Litch (135) riding an Adult Green DracoLitch (207) controling the air space with 79 Crawling Claws (2 each) spread out on the battlefield to slow down the party's ground advance.
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So, the three big boys (and girl) we have, so far, Hit Dice-wise, are 30 (Orcus), 33 (Tarrasque), and 30 (Tiamat), what I am curious about, is an actual god has 30 HD, yet a Demon Lord has the same, and a Monstrosity has even more, and why does the Tarrasque have the "titan" tag, but Tiamat does not have the "god" tag?
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I was operating under the assumption that this quote "You can't fight greater gods in 5E, as they are bodiless metaphysical beings. I guess you could fight their avatars." from a tweet by Christopher Perkins applied to Tiamat. I may have been incorrect.
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So far, types don't denote set abilities in 5e, only that certain spells/magic weapons affect creatures that have the type (and humanoid means that it is possible for a member of that race to be a PC). It seems like the devs don't intend to make spells or weapons that specially affect gods, but they anticipate making such things for titans.
It seems likely that most gods will be celestials or fiends, maybe titans or abberations for the neutral ones.....
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What I find bizzare is in the recent Archmage preview Lolth, the drow including one of the matron and gromph and company are working on/successfully summoning the original demons of their breed such as a balor named "Balor" and marilith named "Marilith." She has one boob that's bigger than the other ;)
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I'm looking forward to the moment the Battle Master Fighter just says "I disarm him" and Orcus proceeds to fail multiple times to avoid being disarmed. If he's actually stripped of that fancy shmancy stick of his, it looks like he'll turn into a cake walk, Time Stop or not.
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I’ve got a PC that tries to disarm every opponent with a weapon, to the point that he will use up all his action points trying the same dang thing in a row to get it to work. Kinda drives me up a wall.
As far as what to do with that 500 HP of undead, I’d be tempted to spam a ton of banshees or ghosts. Either that or flameskulls that then just bombard the adventurers with an artillery strike of fireballs.
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10d6 isn't actually that much at higher levels. It averages out to about 35 or so damage. Once. And a DC 17 isn't particularly difficult for a fighter with a good Con Mod. And yes, the DMG has a variant rule for disarming, I use it in my games, but that assumes you can use variant rules, you don't always have that option (*Cough* Adventurer's League *Cough*) And there's always spells to make it impossible for him to reach his wand after it's been disarmed, his legendary actions don't let him pick his staff up after losing it, he'd have to do that on his turn. But, yes, you all are correct in that it's not a weakness, but if you're using Adventurer's League rules, you can't have Orcus disarm the Fighter after the fighter takes his wand.
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I see this thread has succumbed, like so many before it, to a contest to see who can quote the most arcane trivia from prior editions of D&D.
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Also, the undead he summons per day last until destroyed or dismissed, so he could potentially have millions around him when you encounter him, and then maybe summon some more.
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