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#1 Thana Aug 27, 2014 6:02:15	In my knowledge, in 5th edition, each individual spell have the same level regardless of player character classes. (despite of 3.5 edition).   So, spell descriptions could be grouped by spell level first to make reading spells more enjoyed.    May you please considered this for other future products or some minor editions.
#2 TheLyons Aug 27, 2014 6:16:11	I was hoping this were the case as well. I'll eventually have to make it myself so my players can have access to it.
#3 docdoom77 Aug 27, 2014 6:44:50	Thana wrote:
#4 trebor_rjf Aug 27, 2014 7:30:15	no, i like being able to look spells up alphabetically. i don't want to consult the 'index' of the spell list page just see what level the spell i'm looking for is so i finally go flipping through the pages after it.
#5 Karnos Aug 27, 2014 8:27:07	One of the few things I dislike about the PHB.  I would prefer to have spells listed by level, or even by class, but I release the duplication required for that would add a lot of pages.
#6 blake_marlowe Aug 27, 2014 8:48:18	for those of us who suffered through previous editions of spell level-sorted spells, please no not ever again.   yes, that's useful during chargen. but during play, it's absolutely miserable.   having said that: there are spreadsheets that sort the spells for you, if you want a tool to help you choose spells.
#7 DemoMonkey Aug 27, 2014 10:29:26	The spell list is a perfect example of something best managed by digital tools. Unless you make a ton of  different lists - alphabetically, by class, by level, by school, by any combination of two or three of these - you will never arrive at a satisfactory hardcopy choice that pleases everyone.
#8 Orethalion Aug 27, 2014 10:33:39	Thana wrote:
#9 Karnos Aug 27, 2014 10:44:14	Orethalion wrote:
#10 GladiusLegis Aug 27, 2014 10:45:02	Grouping by class wasn't the issue. However, those spells definitely should've been grouped by school as well.
#11 Marandahir Aug 27, 2014 13:22:48	You mean, like this?
#12 Emerikol. Aug 27, 2014 13:31:38	Orethalion wrote:
#13 masterfat78 Aug 27, 2014 14:25:01	Yes the spell grouping is kinda bad. Ih there is one thing I see slowing down character creation, its when you get to spells.
#14 zgrose Aug 27, 2014 15:40:51	Odds are you know the name of the spell before you look for its description so alpha-order by spell name is probably the best bet (per post #8).   Having the page number of the spell would've been a nice touch to minimize page flipping in the lists on pgs 207-211.
(Reply to #11) Shirebrok	Marandahir wrote:
#16 Orethalion Aug 27, 2014 16:39:07	Karnos wrote:
#17 Orethalion Aug 27, 2014 16:40:52	Emerikol. wrote:
#18 seti Aug 27, 2014 16:51:53	I begged for a spell list by level first, then aphabetically second.    I reluctantly accept that they can't (won't) organize them by class too, as there's too much overlap between classes' spells again.   Oh well. Being caster just means a lot more busy work/book keeping homework than it did in 4e. DMing caster monsters is annoying again too.   When looking up a specific spell, yeah, a pure alphbetical listing is good. Only DMs do this a lot, however. For creating and leveling up PCs, having spells organized by level and class makes more sense.   To make more money, they should just publish a Spellbook/compendium that does both. DMs and caster PCs would buy it.
#19 Orethalion Aug 28, 2014 7:10:12	seti wrote:
(Reply to #11) TheLyons	Marandahir wrote:
#21 Brock_Landers Aug 28, 2014 10:14:51	Alphabetically is best, especially for DMs looking up a spell a monster uses.
(Reply to #6) Azzy1974	blake_marlowe wrote:
#23 ankiyavon Aug 28, 2014 16:22:30	DemoMonkey wrote:
#24 blake_marlowe Aug 29, 2014 13:33:31	karnos quoth: after character creation, you have copies of your spells and effects printed out. during play, you do not consult the book at all, because it's all right infront of you.