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| #1Chiisai_UsagiOct 25, 2014 21:34:37 | Ritual Casting. The name says it all. Mighty rituals and cool abilities, a way to make up for having so few spell slots in relation to older editions. A nice 4e mechanic that held over, an interesting feat to take, and...
WAIT A MINUTE! THERE'S ONLY A COUPLE OF RITUAL SPELLS IN THIS WHOLE BOOK! At least...that's what the spreadsheet I'm looking at shows so I hope I'm not misreading it. And that's spread across every class!
Has anyone worked with Ritual Casting much in 5e yet? I had planned on picking it up for my sorceress all this time, but when I saw just how tiny my spell selection was it gave me a doubletake as I was expecting many/a lot of utility spells to fill that niche. But at a max level of 5, is Ritual Casting underpowered? Just not fleshed out? A good idea that didn't get quite finished cooking?
Does anyone else add other spells to Ritual Casting, or have any other neat tweaks that might make this a useful ability? |
| #2pukunuiOct 25, 2014 22:39:21 | In the groups I play in, ritual casting is mostly only used to cast detect magic or identify. |
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| #4ArtifactOct 25, 2014 23:28:08 |
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| #5DaveDashOct 25, 2014 23:37:13 | The wizard in our party is constantly using detect magic, identify, alarm, and even water breathing. |
| #6ankiyavonOct 26, 2014 0:26:55 |
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| #7UchawiOct 26, 2014 4:41:17 | Rituals could do so much more and only have a shell of an implementatoin in 4E and 5E, with 5E being weaker overall. It would be a great way to bridge non-casters with casting ability. In the same sense martial practices could bridge martial ability with non-martial classes. For example, rituals could help replenish a ring of spell storing, so you could have armor and weapons that need to be maintained by a martial character (certain level) or it would loose some of it's special properties. |
| #8raleelOct 26, 2014 6:32:32 | As has been pointed out, we don't even have a DMG a yet. There are spell creation rules in there.
Also, sorcerers have the smallest ritual selection (tied with warlocks). Wizards have 15 ritual spells. Several excellent choices in there. |
| #9neomahakala108Oct 26, 2014 8:55:39 | i think that Rituals will happen sooner or later.
it's just elaboration of the spell's or prayer's formula, which can be just roleplayed then built upon into more complete 'ritual'. |
| #10Chiisai_UsagiOct 26, 2014 10:08:17 | So it seems most people replying are just using them as-presented. I love your idea, Uchawi, and that's a really interesting take on it that I hadn't considered. I spoke with my DM about various ideas, but we didn't settle on anything yet. It's just such a high cost for the ability for it to do next to nothing that it seems almost a vestigial idea/artifact that didn't get pruned, or somehow got overlooked or something. I like the Demon Summoning (Regular Summoning?) usage ideas too.
I know they didn't get much more usage in 4e either, but they were still a solid contender imo than they are now. I think transliterating almost all of those would be a good first start, and with the DM having spell creation rules that shouldn't be hard. Maybe any non-instantaneous spell could be ritualized (and even some of them, with restrictions). I can see making something like...polymorph a ritual but only if used for tiny, normal animals - giving it that old-style "Wizard becomes a raven!" flavor without it being used for "Wizard becomes a Babau!" or something similar.
Anyway, thank you everyone for your ideas and comments. |
| #11Luis_CarlosOct 26, 2014 12:06:05 | I use rituals with the rules of incarnatios from 3.5 Unearthe Arcana because I want my warlocks to can craft talismans and another single-use magic items or to recharge wands staffs and rods. |