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#1 Zardnaar Aug 09, 2014 17:15:01	Just a Question for cunningAction as a level 2 Rogue. it says you get a bonus disengage, dash, or hide action. Now those actions seem to be a standard action in 3.5 terms and you can move as well.     The bonus action do you get extra movement as well so you can move, have an attack and then disengage with an extra movement rate or does it in effect let you use those actions which are normally a "standard" action as part of you movement?    For example a human has 30' move. and for his bonus action decides to use disengage. He moves 10 and has an attack. Normally he would have 20 left over so with cunning action he can disengage without provoking an attack of opportunity.     Same thing with dash it seems to double your movement rate as an action, not to hard to figure out. I'm assumingg cunning lets you double your movement rate and have an attack or does it let you move 30, attack and then have a dash action and move another 60'?    Also what is the easiest wway to get advantage as a Rogue? An ally can use the help action just wondering what other ways there are of enabling sneak attacks.
#2 The_White_Sorcerer Aug 09, 2014 18:43:14	If I understand you correctly, a bonus action does not give you extra movement over what the action itself gives. So if you use Dash as a bonus action, your total movement for that turn is 60 ft., not 90.   So you could move 10 feet next to an enemy, use your action to attack, then Disengage as a bonus action and then move 20 feet.
#3 Zardnaar Aug 09, 2014 18:45:24	The_White_Sorcerer wrote:
#4 h347h50 Aug 09, 2014 19:40:26	Zardnaar wrote:
#5 Kalani Aug 09, 2014 19:55:00	All characters have 1 move action, and one action per turn. Some characters also gain a bonus action.   Dash, Disengage, and Hide normally use the players action, preventing them from attacking in the same turn (as attacking also uses the players single action for the turn).    A rogues Cunning Action allows you to take these actions as a bonus action instead. A rogue who uses Cunning Action  to perform one of these "actions" still retains their move and action for the turn.   In addition, movement can be broken up before and after your action. If you have the extra attacks feature, you can also take movement between attacks.    When combined, this allows a 5th level rogue to move 10ft, attack, disengage (bonus action), move another 20ft (30ft total), and then attack.  Alternately, the rogue could dash 30ft (bonus action), attack, move 10ft (without leaving a threatened area), and attack again, or just move 60ft then attack.
#6 grendel111111 Aug 09, 2014 21:05:02	Extra attack got dropped. You could move 10 attack, then move 20 and attack with your off hand weapon but that would use your bonus action so you couldn't add a cunning action to it.
#7 Kalani Aug 09, 2014 21:20:17	Bugger. I keep forgetting that Rogues no longer get Extra Attack (this came up in an earlier thread......there is no excuse for making the same mistake twice...)   Rogues haven't had anything like Extra Attacks since the March 2013 playtest - and back then it was called Deadly Strike, and it was horrible. It let rogues and other martial types roll their damage dice multiple times in an effort to reduce action economy. I am so glad that feature was replaced with Extra Attacks.
#8 Noon Aug 10, 2014 1:07:06	Seem to be needlessly complicated answers?   You get one bonus action.   If you spend it on dash then you can't spend it on disengage. And vise versa.   Side note: Also it means you can't spend it on two weapon fighting/a second attack with a light weapon, either.