Slightly modified point buy, more opportunities for 17s

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#1

TheLyons

Aug 12, 2014 14:49:14

There is one thing I love about the point buy: max starting stat including race bonus is a 17. However, here are the only ways to get 17s:

 

Half-Orc - Strength

Mountain Dwarf - Strength

Dragonborn - Strength

 

Dwarf - Constitution

#2

Thank_Dog

Aug 12, 2014 15:37:38

TheLyons wrote:
#3

TheLyons

Aug 12, 2014 17:54:56 		I may put a restriction on the second 17 as well. Seems fair. And a 17 and 16 as your top two is hardly overpowered as a human can get three 16s
#4

seti

Aug 12, 2014 18:02:49

I actually like 5e's way of basically having PC's start weaker...it gives you something to do/work towards. When was the last time you played D&D and was excited to get that first 18 at level 4 or level 8?

 

Starting with an18 would actually kind of suck in 5e. It was required in 4e, and pretty much required in 3/3.5/PF too.

 

 

#5

Karnos

Aug 12, 2014 18:29:36

17 and 16 is essentially the same.  I mean, sure you can increase a 17 to an 18 with a half-feat but it's not really a huge difference.  I don't think it's a meaningful difference.

 

I like the system as-is for now.  At least give it a chance for a few months before you change stuff around, that my thinking.

#6

TheLyons

Aug 12, 2014 18:38:27 		The only real purpose for me is that I dislike that a few class and race combos get a 17 in their prime stat, several others cap at 16 and the rest are stuck at 15. I know this has sort of been the case before as you had to play a +2 dex race in 3.5 to start with a 20 dex for example. I just hate that there is precisely 9 different ways to start with a 17, ranging from 0 races for charisma to 3 races for strength. That's it. If all races could start with a 16 in something that would be fine. I really liked how class added a point in the playtest and may modify it to something like that but again banning anything above 17
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seti

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#9

TheLyons

Aug 12, 2014 20:57:37 		So end result is at max one 17, one 16, although it's probably not wise to spend 18 of your 27 points on 2 of your 6 stats. I make sure having an 8 in something is noticeably a weakness for your character.