The Basic PDF Formatting is Bad

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#1

The_Jester

Jul 03, 2014 14:25:01

Still digesting the actual document and the rules but I've found a few irritations. 

Most of the text in the paragraphs is not recognized as text. This means you cannot cut-and-paste the document.

This causes two problems.

 

First, it's not possible to copy the entire document to paste it into a document program like Word or Open Office to make a printer friendly copy. 

Greg Bilsland has already said on Twitter that they're working on a printer friendly version, so this is a short term problem. 

 

Second, and much more important, this means the text cannot be searched. If you do a search through the PDF the feature will typically only find the term when used in headings, subheadings, and tables.

This greatly limits the usability of the PDF. 
For example, I wanted to see how prevalent advantage was in class features, to see how often characters could mitigate penalties. But the search found a single use in the class chapter then jumped to the equipment chapter. 

 

The PDF has bookmarks based on the chapter headings, but this doesn't include the subheadings. So when you're looking for a particular section, you need to skim the entire chapter.

 

The document also makes no use of hyperlinks, which seems like a missed opportunity for a solely electronic document. For example, many spells and abilities refer to conditions, which could easily be linked in the document. 

#2

pukunui

Jul 03, 2014 14:31:20

There is a printer-friendly version up now. It is both searchable and copyable.

#3

seti

Jul 03, 2014 16:40:14

It's free. There's my complaint.

 

How dare a small group of game developers owned by a HUGE toy and game company give me anything. Seriously; WTF?!

 

#4

Shasarak

Jul 03, 2014 17:05:59

seti wrote:
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seti

Shasarak wrote:
#6

Shasarak

Jul 03, 2014 17:28:50

seti wrote:
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ATerriblePerson

seti wrote:
#8

pukunui

Jul 03, 2014 17:55:11

This is a free product, people. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

#9

Karnos

Jul 03, 2014 18:00:34

Shasarak wrote:
#10

Shasarak

Jul 03, 2014 18:40:03

Karnos wrote:
#11

Azzy1974

Jul 03, 2014 19:27:57

The_Jester wrote:
#12

seti

Jul 03, 2014 20:21:45

Ok, the PDF could use a table of contents...And an index.... Them's some new-fangled city-boy interwebs-type ideas! (That haven't been around for, I dunno, since shortly after the birth of printing books; probably earlier. Help me out, history buffs)

 

But, as someone said, "don't look a gift horse in the mouth". (it might bite your nose.)

#13

pukunui

Jul 03, 2014 20:34:25

As someone else pointed out, I can see why they might hold off on a ToC until they're finished updating the document. Same with the index. Having to update them every time would be annoying.

#14

Shasarak

Jul 03, 2014 20:44:49

pukunui wrote:
#15

quindia

Jul 03, 2014 21:05:12

I DO know how to hyperlink a PDF, but the links direct to pages, not specific entries on the page. As the doc is updated and added to, the pages will get shuffled and they would have to go back and edit all of the hyperlinks. They also would need to edit the ToC and index every time (it can be soul destroying to have to edit once, let alone half a dozen times). Maybe by the end of the year the Basic game will be finished and they can add a ToC, index, and hyperlinks (or I will do it myself... But NOT until the doc is more complete).

#16

pukunui

Jul 03, 2014 21:09:09

Shasarak wrote:
#17

Azzy1974

Jul 03, 2014 21:16:34

I hate doing hyperlinks in documents... It's so annoying.

#18

The_Jester

Jul 03, 2014 21:50:19

The printer friendly one does solve a lot of my complaints. Kudos to WotC for that.

 

And if I don't complain, how will they know what to fix and improve for the next revision? They can make it better after all.

#19

Nicodaudel

Jul 03, 2014 22:19:25

The_Jester wrote: