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| #1Torg_SmithMar 10, 2015 5:11:32 | The Elemental Evil Player's Companion is up on DriveThruRPG now.
http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product/145542/Elemental-Evil-Players-Companion-5e
It has a number of races and new spells. Two of the races will work for Dark Sun (Aarakocra and Goliath).
I was hoping for a elemental subclass of preist, but it has a nice list of new elemental spells. |
| #2frothsofMar 10, 2015 5:41:29 | Adventurer's League Elemental docs at the bottom of this link
http://dnd.wizards.com/articles/events/adventurers-league-resources
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| #3melloredMar 10, 2015 7:23:58 | I'm glad to see beast bond. That helps the beastmaster a good bit (telepathy and advantage)
Still need a revivify beast. |
| #4AlHazredMar 10, 2015 7:33:20 | Meh, I was a fan of the Fiend Folio style Aaracokra, with hands on their wings. It was different, and different is cool! (At least, until everybody else does it... then it's mainstream).
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| #5IxidorRSMar 10, 2015 8:06:17 | I really like the Goliath.
So happy to have Genasi again. |
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| #7LuisCarlos17fMar 10, 2015 8:58:59 | Aaracokras are cool, I am happy for their return... but what about avariels (winged elves) and raptorans (the new PC from "Races of Wild").
* About genasies... I imagine them like humanoids with genies ancestors. |
| #8EnglishLanguageMar 10, 2015 8:59:08 | Let's see, races with permanent flight at-will, a bunch of new spells for caster classes, and absolutely nothing for noncasters.
I think this is a splatbook I cna safely ignore. |
| #9FFSAAMar 10, 2015 9:03:26 | They don't seem shy about adding spells to the sorc. |
| #10PhobosMar 10, 2015 9:14:04 |
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| #11Farmer42Mar 10, 2015 9:21:50 | That picture isn't loud enough, Phobos. |
| #12mrpopstarMar 10, 2015 9:28:00 | So obnoxious that you must join DriveThruRPG or D&DClassics in order to access this content. #grumble |
| #13melloredMar 10, 2015 9:29:36 |
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| #14TashiroMar 10, 2015 9:37:32 | I was hoping to see Elemental Pact warlocks, Elemental Bloodline Sorcerers, and Elemental Domains for Clerics. There's a lot that can be done - hopefully they'll be in the actual book. Genasi showing up is kind of cool though. |
| #15joeburgosMar 10, 2015 9:44:53 | Yeah I'm thinking the same, we will probably see these in the actual hardcover |
| #16KalaniMar 10, 2015 9:46:28 |
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| #17melloredMar 10, 2015 9:57:55 | I wonder if that's how they are going to progress.
Instead of racial levels, you have racial feats.
i.e. pixie +2 Dex, +1 Cha tiny, flys
pixie feat: You can cast the following spells. Sleep, polymorph, ect...
mind flayer: +2 Int, +1 Cha telepathic
mind flayer feat: You cast the following spells. Mind blast...
Advanced mind flayer feat: You can eat people's brains and turn them into your pets.
Hmmm... yea. I think i like that better the losing class levels. |
| #18SeuleslintanMar 10, 2015 10:07:08 | i like the goliath race too, but i think they are weaker than other races?
they look great and the story is very interesting
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| #19IxidorRSMar 10, 2015 10:37:06 |
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| #20ZardnaarMar 10, 2015 11:34:33 |
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| #21DemoMonkeyMar 10, 2015 11:40:52 | Observations
1) You can get it on the Wizards website 2) Zero Cleric or Paladin spells? That seems an odd omission. 3) Races and spells are cool, but no class/subclass options? 4) Interesting choice to give a handful of spell abilities to the Svirfneblin, but only at the cost of a race-gated feat instead of as a purely racial ability. |
| #22UngeheuerLichMar 10, 2015 11:44:31 | I am bit sad to see, that we don´t get new subclasses and I hope, we will someday get some unearthed arcana articles with:
- storm sorcerer (it seems to be mentioned in the header of the sorcerer in the PHB) - elemental domain priest - elemental wizard
the last two could be a single school and a single domain with some suboptions. |
| #23MechatarrasqueMar 10, 2015 11:47:18 |
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| #24alienuxMar 10, 2015 11:56:44 |
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| #25mrpopstarMar 10, 2015 11:58:31 |
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| #26mrpopstarMar 10, 2015 12:00:16 |
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| #27melloredMar 10, 2015 12:04:48 |
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| #28XaspianMar 10, 2015 12:05:03 |
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| #29KravellMar 10, 2015 12:07:54 | I really like free content. This content is great.
I do think it is weird that the monk of the four elements didn't have any new options. The bard can get new elemental spells, but the monk does not get new ki options. Just seemed like an easy add on (an extra list of spells the monk can use with ki cost would have been simple I would have thought).
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| #30mrpopstarMar 10, 2015 12:08:55 |
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| #31delrolandMar 10, 2015 12:22:42 | Aganazzar's scorcher should have a range of 60 feet. This would fall in line with the range it has always traditionally had. Furthermore, at a 30 foot range this spell is no more powerful than burning hands. As a second level spell, the increase in damage by 3 points (on average) isn't enough to set it apart, but doubling the range certainly would. |
| #32melloredMar 10, 2015 12:24:03 |
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| #33IxidorRSMar 10, 2015 13:03:06 |
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| #34melloredMar 10, 2015 13:13:21 |
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| #35IxidorRSMar 10, 2015 13:22:12 |
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| #36Brock_LandersMar 10, 2015 13:34:51 | I also thought we might get a subclass or two (elemental sorcerer, maybe a genie pact for the warlock, sort of a sha'ir type deal). Love the return of some classic 2nd Ed spells (Snilloc's snowballs, vitriolic sphere). |
| #37melloredMar 10, 2015 13:37:58 |
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| #38Swede1985Mar 10, 2015 14:37:26 | No light sensitivity on deep gnomes? If the drow must suffer the horrors of the sun, why not the deep gnomes? |
| #39IxidorRSMar 10, 2015 14:39:11 |
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| #40melloredMar 10, 2015 14:48:05 | blinding the BBEG at level 1 is just as helpful as blinding the BBEG at level 20 |
| #41WhiteShirtCaptainMar 10, 2015 16:25:48 | Sweet, can't wait to check it out! |
| #42Dark_KainMar 10, 2015 17:00:09 |
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| #43ZHDarkstarMar 10, 2015 17:16:28 | There's a typo in one of the spells that needs fixing.
Erupting Earth 3rd-level transmutation |
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| #46FallingIcicleMar 10, 2015 18:06:24 | I really like the new cantrips, especially control flames, gust, mold earth and shape water. I'm glad to see some classic spells come back, like pyrotechnics and transmute rock. I'm also happy to see more elemental options, especially for sorcerers. Now there's a point to having something other than a red or gold dragon ancestry.
The new race options were a nice surprise. I'm glad to see the genasi again. The aarokocra seem quite powerful with their flying speed, but that's pretty much all that they get so I don't think they're too overpowered. I think that the deep gnome feat is a nice way of letting people play more powerful races without things like level adjustments.
I was a bit disappointed in Abi-Dalzim's Horrid Wilting, though. It's really weak for an 8th level spell. Sunburst is better in almost every way, and even circle of death laughs at it. Snilloc's snowball swarm is also weak for its level, and is inferior to shatter. |
| #47Jordan175Mar 10, 2015 18:13:06 | Oh boy! An Elemental supplement! and the "Path of the 4 elements" monk is my favorite!
*reads*
Awww... |
| #48Fake-HealerMar 10, 2015 19:14:45 | I love this! More content and for free?!?! Nice. I can use all of this even if I just rename and reflavor stuff. I like how they handled Aarokocra...really good flight but not much else and a warning to becareful as DM with them because flight is powerful. It's great! Also that is a lot of spells and all seem to be in line with current spells and not looking like any power-creep is happening. Good job WOTC. |
| #49IxidorRSMar 10, 2015 20:07:53 |
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| #50Sword_of_SpiritMar 10, 2015 20:20:52 | Looks good overall.
The Air and Earth Genasi seem weak. Compare them to their Fire and Water kin, and compare Air Genasi to Aarakocra.
It seems to me that Air and Earth's spells ought to refresh on a short rest.
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| #51ChaosmancerMar 10, 2015 23:35:24 | I think I'm agreeing with the majority. Love some of this stuff (only skimmed it though) and I'm estatic about getting Genasi again. However, I was really hoping for a new sorcerer bloodline with the Elemental Evil stuff. Hopefuly that will end up somewhere, someday |
| #52KalaniMar 10, 2015 23:48:21 | Speaking of Fire Genasi
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| #53setiMar 11, 2015 0:28:17 | I wanted sub-classes/ cleric domains (elemental sorcerer, and elemental priest) too. Also, something more for the elemental monk.
Oh well. They did add some races, and some interesting spells. Can't really complain when it's free on the D&D site. This was also a much better freebie than that Eberron bit. (I'm still mad about artificer as wizard sub-class.) |
| #54Brock_LandersMar 11, 2015 0:41:05 |
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| #55Lady_AurallaMar 11, 2015 1:22:32 | So much obvious low hanging fruit missed in regards to subclasses and feats. Once again non casters get shown how much the designers care about them. |
| #56Sands666Mar 11, 2015 2:37:28 |
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| #57Torg_SmithMar 11, 2015 5:14:37 | As far as the martial classes go, I would have been surprised to see much in an elemental themed publication. Races, feats, and magical items are about all you can do as elemental is a power source. The races are there, they just don’t have magical items or feats. With all the complaints people have made about the past games being too complex, they might be leaving the martial classes light for those people.
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| #58melloredMar 11, 2015 5:24:33 | I could see elemental martial feats.
Thunder Warrior: *When you hit with a weapon attack, deal 1d4 thunder damage and push the target 5'. *You gain resistance to thunder.
Flame Warrior: *When you hit with a weapon attack, deal 1d7 fire damage. *You gain resistance to fire.
ect... |
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| #60Sands666Mar 11, 2015 14:39:27 |
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| #61Farmer42Mar 11, 2015 15:15:48 | Yeah, Air and Water Genasi both habe abilities that let them bypass very serious dangers. Darkvision is convinient. Being immune to drowning or suffocation, however, can radically alter how an encounter is turns out. |
| #62Sword_of_SpiritMar 11, 2015 18:48:56 |
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| #63Farmer42Mar 11, 2015 19:21:17 | Unless it specifically states that water disperses it, a cloud effect will still work in aqueous environments. A gas is just another fluid. So the air has the edge, there. They come out about even, since levitate can be terribly abused if the player is clever enough. |
| #64Sword_of_SpiritMar 11, 2015 21:10:16 |
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| #65pauln6Mar 12, 2015 1:56:37 | Class options beyond spells are missing from the article so it seems likely they could be released later. We know they are going to introduce 'alternative' class features for the ranger so I hope they do that for some of the caster builds too.
Elemental magic is so magical it's hard to see how they can lever in any martial love but clerics should get elemental domains and they should provide options whereby existing clerical domains can add appropriate additional optionsd to domain spell options while being limited to two choices per level. Elemental sorcerer and druid builds are possible and alternate features for elemental monks could be in.
Personally though, I'm all about the shadow. |
| #66Lady_AurallaMar 12, 2015 4:44:47 | This is a fantasy game so what is wrong with elemental based warriors or fighting styles? I know there is a group that hates this sort of thing but they have far too much say in all editions till now and it is time they were ignored. |
| #67Torg_SmithMar 12, 2015 5:25:19 |
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| #68melloredMar 12, 2015 5:36:44 |
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| #69Mephi1234Mar 12, 2015 5:56:36 |
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| #71Mephi1234Mar 12, 2015 8:00:17 | I feel like we should also be getting a water / cold based Cleric Domain with this release. Not only does cleric appear to be iconic water genasi class (at least going by the picture), but we've already covered the fire and air elements (Light and Tempest, respectively). It would also be an ideal time to get an Earth + Protection style Domain, as well.
Its not in the Player's Companion, but maybe the full one will indulge us? |
| #72Brock_LandersMar 12, 2015 10:48:29 |
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| #74FFSAAMar 12, 2015 12:30:17 |
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| #75Brock_LandersMar 12, 2015 13:36:27 |
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| #76pukunuiMar 13, 2015 12:39:37 | It's interesting. They playtested a lot more stuff than what made it into this pdf, including a number of elemental-themed subclasses. I wonder if they decided they just weren't good enough or whether they're saving them for later? I guess we'll just have to wait and see. |
| #77SpoCk0nd0pe1Mar 13, 2015 13:24:52 | Thank you Wizards for the free content! It seems pretty good at first glance.
One thing I do not get is why Sorcerers do not get access to to Absorb Elements. |
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| #79Mephi1234Mar 14, 2015 7:45:38 |
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| #80pukunuiMar 14, 2015 11:30:26 |
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| #82pukunuiMar 14, 2015 14:25:06 |
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| #83Sword_of_SpiritMar 14, 2015 17:40:36 | Most likely they either canned the additional content to prevent bloat, or they shelved it and plan to put out a big book of that stuff all at once rather than interspersing it in the adventure paths that people may not want to buy just for the stuff that should be available without them.
Either way works for me. While I think an elemental sorcerer subclass makes sense and should exist, the only other elemental themed subclass that I want to see is sha'ir (and I don't care if it's wizard or warlock). I actively do not want to see elemental domains for clerics, because they really already have that covered in their current domains. If they start creating subclasses for every little tiny distinction of concepts they will end up violating the goals they have of avoiding bloat, and the new subclasses won't be similar to the PHB ones, because they will by necessity by narrower in focus. You'll end up with not only a bloat of subclasses, but two different types of subclasses. So I guess I'm not okay with either way. I'm okay if they shelved some of the stuff to come out in a later book, and canned the bloat, but I just do not want to see everything I get the impression they were working on added to the game, because then I have to make a bunch of decisions about what I allow and disallow, I have to experience frustration at their violating their own philosophy and goals, and it just makes me angry.
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