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#1 Rastapopoulos Jul 05, 2014 9:06:01	I found no rules for performing a Disarm on the Basic Rules, but I think that despite how disarm is performed we can assume the outcome of a succesful disarm is: the target loses grasp of the weapon, which falls to the ground.     But then I saw this on the rules for interacting with items...   "You can also interact with one object or feature of the environment for free, during either your move or your action. For example, you could open a door during your move as you stride toward a foe, or you could draw your weapon as part of the same action you use to attack."   ...which made me wonder about the usefulness of performing a Disarm, if the target can basically draw another weapon, or grab the same fallen weapon again from the ground with a "free" action.     Any thoughts?
#2 kill_the_wiz_first Jul 05, 2014 9:26:25	I guess for Basic I would houserule in 1d8 to scatter in a direction and 3d8 for distance so the disarmed entity must, at least, use movement to retrieve the weapon (plus all the other stuff like attack opportunity, losing reaction, etc). Just a thought, and good catch on lack of this rule. Pretty common a player will request to disarm (IMO!).
#3 Rastapopoulos Jul 05, 2014 9:36:50	I think 3d8 ft distance seems too much distance, imo. That's up to 24ft a weapon can fly and a Disarm move will most likely make the weapon fall at your feet or at best a couple of feet away only. You'd have to really throw a weapon away to reach 24ft which is not what a disarming flourish or maneuver will usually involve, most likely.   And you can also retrieve your weapon for "free" as part of your Move, so...
#4 Paraxis Jul 05, 2014 9:38:24	The attacker could interact with the disarmed object as part of his action, so he could pick it up, kick it away, stand on it, or something else.
#5 Rastapopoulos Jul 05, 2014 9:45:38	Paraxis wrote:
#6 kill_the_wiz_first Jul 05, 2014 9:55:14	Rastapopoulos wrote:
#7 Paraxis Jul 05, 2014 9:59:25	As long as the distance it is knocked or kicked away is far enough that the target has to disengage or provoke an AoO by moving to get it, it is all good.
#8 Rastapopoulos Jul 05, 2014 10:42:31	kill_the_wiz_first wrote:
#9 Brimleydower Jul 05, 2014 10:51:59	Maybe the disarmer can choose, on a success, to place the enemy's weapon in any adjacent square. Far from a death sentence, but it is a mundane expression of forcing an opponent to shift away in a direction of your choosing (assuming they have no backup weapons or choose to flee, of course).
#10 MechaPilot Jul 05, 2014 10:53:41	Paraxis wrote:
#11 sleypy Jul 05, 2014 11:20:09	You could say this: "retrieving an object lying on the ground provokes an attack of opportunity from enemies within 5 ft. of you.    That way you don't have to worry so much about the location of the weapon.