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4e Vistani: PEACH

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#1
Irving
Dec 17, 2008 11:06:53 So here's a rough draft for a 4e Vistani race for Ravenloft. Is the racial power too weak or too strong? Is there a racial feat that you think would work well? Thoughts? Critiques? Raspberries? Let me know what you think.

RACIAL TRAITS

+2 Constitution, +2 Charisma
Size: Medium
Speed: 6 squares
Vision: Normal

Language: Patterna, Common
Skill Bonuses: +2 Thievery, +2 Nature
Voice of Wrath: You may use Voice of Wrath as an encounter power.
Group Insight: You grant all allies within 5 squares a +1 bonus to Insight rolls.
Human Nature: You may take feats that have human as a prerequisite, as long as you meet all other requirements.
Mistwalker: You gain a +1 bonus to your Will defense. In addition, you gain a +5 bonus to your defense against all teleportation effects.

Voice of Wrath

The black curse you hurl at your tormentor leaves him reeling in terror. You find a vicious strength in his torment.

Racial power
Daily * Psychic * Fear * Dread
Standard Action Ranged 10
Target: One creature
Attack: Charisma vs. Will
Hit: 1d6 + Charisma modifier psychic damage, and the target takes a -2 penalty to attack rolls until the end of the turn. Slide the target 1 square. You may spend a healing surge.

The Dread keyword... well, I've got no idea just yet what it does. Probably "the DM may alter the effects of this power at any time without warning or notice." But it strikes me as a good place holder for now.

The race is geared to be a great Warlock choice, and a very good ranger or rogue choice.
#2
Cpt_Micha
Dec 17, 2008 11:28:43 Ditch the Will Defense bonus and might want to consider ditching Mistwalker as well since you already have a bonus to two defenses.
(Humans get to break the rule because the bonus at will is often not as good as the racial encounters)

Other than that I think it's good.
#3
underdark_tourist
Dec 17, 2008 13:30:20 I posted a version of the Vistani that I wrote up for my 4e Forgotten Realms campaign in the "Running the Realms" forum if you would like to reference it.

http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=1096641&highlight=Vistani
#4
angrymojo
Dec 18, 2008 19:15:05 I'd knock back that encounter power a peg or two. Damage, debuff, slide and a healing surge? That's more like a daily. Make it damage and the debuff and I think you'll capture the vistani feel a lot more.

The group bonus also seems a bit odd. Vistani always seemed a bit too clannish to really help those giorgios in the party.

I do, however, love the defense bonus against teleportation effects. That, I feel, really captures the feel of the race.
#5
Eric888
Dec 19, 2008 3:32:00 Since the racial doesn't use a weapon or implement it needs to scale up (+2 heroic, +4 paragon, +6 epic). And the healing surge thing seems totally out of place. I'de get rid of that but move it back to an encounter. Or scrap it alltogether since Vistani were not that combative. Maybe just give them ritual caster as a bonus feat and design some flavorfull rituals for them, like a gypsy curse ritual.

Also the racial skill bonuses seem a little off. They get group insight, but don't get a bonus to insight. And bluff would make sense for gypsies too. Since warlock and eventually bard are the natural choices for gypsies, I would say +2 insight and bluff.
#6
angrymojo
Dec 19, 2008 21:34:16
Also the racial skill bonuses seem a little off. They get group insight, but don't get a bonus to insight. And bluff would make sense for gypsies too. Since warlock and eventually bard are the natural choices for gypsies, I would say +2 insight and bluff.

I can actually see History as being a possible candidate, considering their reputation as storytellers and keepers of folklore.

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#1 Irving Dec 17, 2008 11:06:53	So here's a rough draft for a 4e Vistani race for Ravenloft. Is the racial power too weak or too strong? Is there a racial feat that you think would work well? Thoughts? Critiques? Raspberries? Let me know what you think. RACIAL TRAITS +2 Constitution, +2 Charisma Size: Medium Speed: 6 squares Vision: Normal Language: Patterna, Common Skill Bonuses: +2 Thievery, +2 Nature Voice of Wrath: You may use Voice of Wrath as an encounter power. Group Insight: You grant all allies within 5 squares a +1 bonus to Insight rolls. Human Nature: You may take feats that have human as a prerequisite, as long as you meet all other requirements. Mistwalker: You gain a +1 bonus to your Will defense. In addition, you gain a +5 bonus to your defense against all teleportation effects. Voice of Wrath The black curse you hurl at your tormentor leaves him reeling in terror. You find a vicious strength in his torment. Racial power *Daily Psychic * Fear * Dread Standard Action Ranged 10 Target: One creature Attack: Charisma vs. Will Hit:** 1d6 + Charisma modifier psychic damage, and the target takes a -2 penalty to attack rolls until the end of the turn. Slide the target 1 square. You may spend a healing surge. The Dread keyword... well, I've got no idea just yet what it does. Probably "the DM may alter the effects of this power at any time without warning or notice." But it strikes me as a good place holder for now. The race is geared to be a great Warlock choice, and a very good ranger or rogue choice.
#2 Cpt_Micha Dec 17, 2008 11:28:43	Ditch the Will Defense bonus and might want to consider ditching Mistwalker as well since you already have a bonus to two defenses. (Humans get to break the rule because the bonus at will is often not as good as the racial encounters) Other than that I think it's good.
#3 underdark_tourist Dec 17, 2008 13:30:20	I posted a version of the Vistani that I wrote up for my 4e Forgotten Realms campaign in the "Running the Realms" forum if you would like to reference it. http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=1096641&highlight=Vistani
#4 angrymojo Dec 18, 2008 19:15:05	I'd knock back that encounter power a peg or two. Damage, debuff, slide and a healing surge? That's more like a daily. Make it damage and the debuff and I think you'll capture the vistani feel a lot more. The group bonus also seems a bit odd. Vistani always seemed a bit too clannish to really help those giorgios in the party. I do, however, love the defense bonus against teleportation effects. That, I feel, really captures the feel of the race.
#5 Eric888 Dec 19, 2008 3:32:00	Since the racial doesn't use a weapon or implement it needs to scale up (+2 heroic, +4 paragon, +6 epic). And the healing surge thing seems totally out of place. I'de get rid of that but move it back to an encounter. Or scrap it alltogether since Vistani were not that combative. Maybe just give them ritual caster as a bonus feat and design some flavorfull rituals for them, like a gypsy curse ritual. Also the racial skill bonuses seem a little off. They get group insight, but don't get a bonus to insight. And bluff would make sense for gypsies too. Since warlock and eventually bard are the natural choices for gypsies, I would say +2 insight and bluff.
#6 angrymojo Dec 19, 2008 21:34:16	Also the racial skill bonuses seem a little off. They get group insight, but don't get a bonus to insight. And bluff would make sense for gypsies too. Since warlock and eventually bard are the natural choices for gypsies, I would say +2 insight and bluff. I can actually see History as being a possible candidate, considering their reputation as storytellers and keepers of folklore.