We didn't get trophies. We got some decent prizes, but nothing really outstanding or new we could not buy ourselves.
Is it really too much to ask that the powers that be post an article on the RPGA section of the site (at least, if not the main Features section!) listing, at the least, the winners of the D&D Championship?
Come on, now.
I appreciate everyone who helped set up and run the event a lot of hard work was put into it on what seemed to be limited time and budget and while protesters seem to post more than appreciators some of us would like to see an article as well , for me I really want to see where I placed
.Hey, back off, y'all. I don't really think that asking for a simple web article--Heck, I'd settle for a post--is too much to ask regarding a competition that they've hyped since February. "They'll do it when they feel like it, if they feel like it" is hardly an answer designed to foment a sense of customer service or loyalty, and I won't even go into the issue of my attitude. I own my own business, and if I did (or rather, didn't do) what is happening here, I know I'd lose customers.
Let me guess, you're also someone who tells the police they should do what you say because as a taxpayer, you pay their wages?
Since you own your own business, perhaps you will recognise the type of customer that is never happy and will, no matter what, always find *something* to complain about, usually in an abrupt, rude fashion - maybe even swearing at you?
How do you feel about that type of customer? Does it make you want to prioritise their wishes over those of the polite customers you have?
Let me guess, you're also someone who tells the police they should do what you say because as a taxpayer, you pay their wages?
Since you own your own business, perhaps you will recognise the type of customer that is never happy and will, no matter what, always find *something* to complain about, usually in an abrupt, rude fashion - maybe even swearing at you?
How do you feel about that type of customer? Does it make you want to prioritise their wishes over those of the polite customers you have?
I can't believe I'm falling for an ad-hominem attack here, but:
I do recognize that customer. I'm not it. I *love* 4E and I really really like what Wizards is doing and I also very much love the RPGA; I'm a recent convert to RPGA-love having had very large misconceptions about it in the past. I think the modules are great; I love running them and playing in them; and I really want to support the community. I have met several of the volunteer administrators, mostly at GenCon and some judges and players at my store, and I think they're wonderful folks. I also think that the Wizards merging of the DCI and RPGA databases is awesome, and that in general it's all a good thing. I am very much looking forward to the RPGA having an influence on the development of the Realms in the future, as Greenwood mentioned would be the case.
I am an avid supporter of Wizards and the RPGA and all of the Wizards employees. I know that they are likely undermanned for what they do, and I respect that they work very hard in what is often a thankless job. While not a game designer or publisher myself, I know a few small publishers (and some very large publishers) and am well aware that even the larger ones have much less staff and much less time to do things than people think they do.
That does not abrogate my irritation for what they have not done and what they should do; that does not mean I can't get ticked off when they don't do something that is remarkably simple to do; and that doesn't give them a free pass on everything.
That does not abrogate my irritation for what they have not done and what they should do; that does not mean I can't get ticked off when they don't do something that is remarkably simple to do; and that doesn't give them a free pass on everything.
If I'm understanding all of this, you are disappointed that they didn't do something (give you recognition), but also never said they would do. You have expected them to do so, and perhaps reasonably so, since it is in their interest to follow up with that additional publicity for themselves, if nothing else. But, it isn't an obligation.
If you want a press release anouncing your uber-ness, go ahead and post it. Or get one of your buddies to do it on behalf of you and your team if that seems like unacceptable self-promotion.
I hope this comes across as helping you see that you have other options; you may disagree, but it is not my intent to be either dismissive or critical.
David
And to alleviate some of the tension on this thread, a little humour
I also very much love the RPGA; I'm a recent convert to RPGA-love having had very large misconceptions about it in the past
Nope. You had no misconception. I can read your mind... I'm a psion you know. You thought that the RPGA modules were very bad, written by talentless hack. told you i could read your mind... you are also thinking that you really like chocolate cake... well who doesn't.
Got to say there were some real stinkers out there as far as some RPGA modules went... not going to mention any names but you know who you are.
Though as a rule if you went on a mission for a noble (who had lost all but his mansion) or a gnome (with a comedy name with the sound "wick" in his name) you probably got a bad module.
Now watch as i pull a rabbit out of my hat... Um. I seem to have misplace my rabbit. If anybody see's a rabbit, can you please give him back to me? :P
If I'm understanding all of this, you are disappointed that they didn't do something (give you recognition), but also never said they would do. You have expected them to do so, and perhaps reasonably so, since it is in their interest to follow up with that additional publicity for themselves, if nothing else. But, it isn't an obligation.
If you want a press release anouncing your uber-ness, go ahead and post it. Or get one of your buddies to do it on behalf of you and your team if that seems like unacceptable self-promotion.
I hope this comes across as helping you see that you have other options; you may disagree, but it is not my intent to be either dismissive or critical.
David
It does help, thank you.
While they didn't explicitly promise posting such information, your latter statement is correct (it is in their interest to follow up with such a post) and one of the primary reasons why I think my desire isn't unreasonable: if they spent the 6 months prior to the Championship featuring it as a tab on their own section of the site, publicizing the vote for the characters, the pre-Qualifier events, and otherwise attempting to build up hype, with posts therein that actually were much more difficult to post than, say, a simple text announcement of the winners....
I think you get the point. I have had it in my sig and told people about the victory (there's an ulterior motive; it's not terribly cool to win, but if you own a gaming store it has a certain humorous cache ("I understand you think -X- about the rules, but you're dealing with one of the top 15 geeks in the world here!!!"; "We're some of the top 15 D&D players in the world, we could bless your dice for you if you want", etcetera, etcetera) not to mention some free publicity for the store.
That's all
If I'm understanding all of this, you are disappointed that they didn't do something (give you recognition), but also never said they would do. You have expected them to do so, and perhaps reasonably so, since it is in their interest to follow up with that additional publicity for themselves, if nothing else. But, it isn't an obligation.
Speaking only for myself, I'm concerned about signs that support for the RPGA is being reduced.
I've been watching developments in Magic, Gleemax, and other WotC projects, and there's a pretty clear trend of budget cuts and withdrawn support. The RPGA already needs more than what it's getting, and I'm worried that it's going to get less instead of more.
As you say, there's no obligation to follow-up, but if they did, I'd be a bit less worried.
Speaking only for myself, I'm concerned about signs that support for the RPGA is being reduced.
I've been watching developments in Magic, Gleemax, and other WotC projects, and there's a pretty clear trend of budget cuts and withdrawn support. The RPGA already needs more than what it's getting, and I'm worried that it's going to get less instead of more.
As you say, there's no obligation to follow-up, but if they did, I'd be a bit less worried.
I'm personally less worried about budget cuts. What I've seen at GenCon, and with the way the RPGA has moved from being the proverbial "red-headed stepchild" of WotC, the signs I'm seeing show the RPGA getting MORE love.
This includes featuring up front in the 4E PHB, the RPGA getting a monthly article (even if it IS short) in Dragon magazine, and even the yellow "RPGA" jewel on the D&D homepage/news cycler.
That there's yet another national "game day" event around the corner (Weekend in the Realms) seems to show broad support of the RPGA.
What I think is going on is more a symptom of the RPGA staff (Chris and Ian) have too much work to juggle not drop a few balls here and there.
. . . hmmm. . . wonder where I submit my resume. :D
That does not abrogate my irritation for what they have not done and what they should do; that does not mean I can't get ticked off when they don't do something that is remarkably simple to do; and that doesn't give them a free pass on everything.
Your first two posts in this thread came across very poorly to many, including me. Snarky replies to snarky initial posts should be expected.
What I think is going on is more a symptom of the RPGA staff (Chris and Ian) have too much work to juggle not drop a few balls here and there.
That's exactly what I'm talking about. Now that they have more work, they need more resources, and it doesn't seem like they're getting it.
That's exactly what I'm talking about. Now that they have more work, they need more resources, and it doesn't seem like they're getting it.
Not getting additional resources to handle a growing or spiked workload is very different than reduced support (fewer resources), which is what you originally communicated. Or, rather, it is what I interpretted you to say.
David
Not getting additional resources to handle a growing or spiked workload is very different than reduced support (fewer resources), which is what you originally communicated. Or, rather, it is what I interpretted you to say.
David
A reduction in support would obviously be worse. If WotC expects the RPGA to do more work with fewer resources, that's just going to be a disaster for all of us.
Failing to increase the support isn't much better, though. The RPGA wasn't keeping up especially well with the previous workload; what do you think will happen when there's a lot more work to be done?
A reduction in support would obviously be worse. If WotC expects the RPGA to do more work with fewer resources, that's just going to be a disaster for all of us.
Failing to increase the support isn't much better, though. The RPGA wasn't keeping up especially well with the previous workload; what do you think will happen when there's a lot more work to be done?
I don't have the insight into the organization to know if they're dealing with a spike in workload as a result of LFR launch/ database conversion/ review all mods, or if there is an enduring increase in the workload. Effectively, we're building rhetorical mansions out of a deferred letter. (No offense to OP; will you bless my dice, pls?)
David
I seem to recall Greg had handed off the info to the web tech guys to put up on the site. It may be that a number of them have been pulled to fix the database issues while the rest are at the con running the D&D Insider demos.
I'm just trying to exercise some common sense to find a simple answer to a frustrating question is all. I have no clue why it has taken this long, but if I had to wager a guess, that would be mine.