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| #1NovacatApr 21, 2010 18:02:30 | This has been a repeating problem at my FLGS. Most everyone who plays D&D 4E there doesn't know the rules very well, and unfortunately, this includes many of the people running Encounters games. |
| #2kenobi65Apr 21, 2010 19:16:10 | Take a read through the RPGA CCG (the "General Rules" document, if you're looking at the document I'm thinking you are, is woefully out of date). Specifically, see the "Organizing and DMing for Living Forgotten Realms" section (pp. 10-11), which includes the following:The DM should make adjudications when the rules are unclear or to keep play moving. If a rules call is necessary, it is the DM’s job to make the call and continue with the action. Players can take a brief amount of time to object to a rules interpretation, but after listening to the players’ objections, the DM should make a quick decision. The DM cannot specify what rules elements are or are not allowed for characters. This Character Creation Guide determines the legality of player resources for characters, not the DM. In short, LFR DMs shouldn't be using house rules, when the situation in question is covered by existing rules. Does this help? |
| #3NovacatApr 22, 2010 0:03:02 | Are LFR rules true for any RPGA event, such as Encounters? |
| #4tirianmalApr 22, 2010 8:21:58 | LFR rules, no. But sections of the CCG are generally applicable to RPGA games. But, I don't think Encounters is an RPGA event. I used to think that but I believe on the Encounters forum it has been stated as not being one. |
| #5allgeekApr 22, 2010 9:48:06 |
This is a common question that isn't RPGA specific. As long as it doesn't harm your Character, XP, or Gold, I would mention the slip-up to the DM after the Encounter. If it effects the party, and you know the specifics of the rule in question, mention it during a time where it will not hold up the rest of the party. I am sure that on someone elses turn, you would rather let him make a slightly unbelievable jump then have to wait 30 minutes for an official ruling from the PHB. You could simply mention the rules issue at the end ![]() |
| #6AlphastreamApr 22, 2010 12:28:32 | LFR rules, no. But sections of the CCG are generally applicable to RPGA games. But, I don't think Encounters is an RPGA event. I used to think that but I believe on the Encounters forum it has been stated as not being one. This comes through a friend of mine via Tulach, but I am not convinced (my friend and I have had this discussion) that Tulach's comment was a "truth" vs. a perspective reflecting a potential future. The RPGA program is clearly evolving, but I don't think Encounters is meant to be outside of the RPGA guidelines... especially since there are no separate guidelines. For D&D Encounters, it is likely fine for DMs to have a little more latitude. It is also fine for inexperienced DMs to run the event. Much of the beauty of Encounters is helping people get started with D&D. Mistakes will be made, and that is generally ok. Sometimes we have new DMs step up at the location I attend and they are doing a great job with great enthusiasm. I'm sure they mess up a few rules, but this is how everyone has to start. If you see a lot of mistakes, and the mistakes are making the game less fun for you, I would talk to the DM in private. Every DM is different, and some might take offense if you challenge them on rulings. Something like "I am pretty sure this works differently, but I am glad to go with your ruling" is a soft way to say "yeah, right, no, it works like this", and will help you gauge how open the DM is to being corrected. Some DMs will be glad to have someone that really understands the rules and some will feel that the person is being obsessive compulsive and should just roll with it. There is no spoon. But, there is enjoyment of the game. If incorrect calls are ruining the experience, especially if you see them as unfair or against the players, I would speak to the DM about it in private and be honest about what you like and what you don't like. Starting with a positive thing is always good, then state your concern in a nice but clear way - "Hey, I really appreciate your DMing. I am very glad to play each week and the story is cool. I hope you don't mind, but I have a request. Some of the changes you are making seem to create really difficult encounters. The rules generally say xyz, and I'm wondering if we could play the next session more along those lines?" Or, "I really hope I don't come off as a tool, but I really like tactical play and we are doing a few things differently than by the core rules. Could I talk to you about a few rules areas? I would really enjoy the game more if we used the core rules." |
| #7bgibbonsApr 22, 2010 13:56:02 | I like to start from the perspective that the DM might know something I don't, e.g., "Hey, I've always thought that you needed total concealment or superior cover to hide, but I saw your archers were making Stealth checks and then peeking around the corner to attack with combat advantage. Could you show me where the rule you're using is to make sure I run that correctly in the future?" Because, after all, no one is 100% right all of the time, and those times when you run into "the creature has a special ability/my character has a feat/there's an item that lets them do this" sort of situations, you don't have to painfully extract your foot from your mouth. Beyond that, the "Why don't you help me out so we're both using the correct rules" approach is much less likely to get a DM's hackles up than "You're wrong and here's why". The same approach is also useful as a DM. "So, how is your character doing that?" is generally a better response than "Your character is breaking the rules." |
| #8Dragon9Apr 22, 2010 19:21:04 | DDE is, AFAIK, part of the WPN. Which is what the RPGA is now. The RPGA in name no longer exists... officially. I know after outr sessions we fill otu a table tracking form and the sessions do show up under the D&D Public Play history in your WPN account. What I don't know is if DMs get Reward Points for it. I would assume so if we're filling out table tracking forms. |
| #9allgeekApr 23, 2010 16:25:31 | DDE is, AFAIK, part of the WPN. Which is what the RPGA is now. The RPGA in name no longer exists... officially. I know after outr sessions we fill otu a table tracking form and the sessions do show up under the D&D Public Play history in your WPN account. I can confirm 100% that DM's running the Encounters: Undermountain program obtain 1 DM Reward point per session. If you DM all 12 Sessions you will receive 12 DM Reward points for this half of the year of your 5 Required for the mailout. You will notice this under the Rewards Section of your Personal Information center. It is added weekly after the event is reported and processed. |