1st LvL Human help

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#1

VonZig

Oct 15, 2014 15:03:24		I know how the optional feat rules apply, but as a human cam I use the Variant Human Traits? I mean creating a LvL 1 human with option rules for +1 in any two, Gain proficiency in one skill of choice, and gain 1 feat. Can I do that in character creation.
#2

Novacat

Oct 15, 2014 15:31:53

Yes. When else would you be able to do it?

#3

Noctaem

Oct 15, 2014 17:04:52

As long as your DM allows you to use the alternate rules for humans, you would pick that option during character creation.  Just make sure your DM allows it as those options make humans the most powerful race of all.

#4

Illithidbix

Oct 15, 2014 17:59:47

The Feats rules have a very large "Optional Rule. Ask your DM" sticker over them.

 

Hence so does the varient human.

#5

Grazel

Oct 15, 2014 18:51:29

As stated, Variant Human would ONLY be choosable at character creation, and only with DM approval since feats are an optional rule.

#6

Sands666

Oct 16, 2014 1:00:06

If the question is, "do you use all of the variant traits instead of just some" the answer is you use all of the variant traits in place of your normal ability score increase for humans   And as many others have said, ask the DM first. 

#7

Strill

Oct 16, 2014 1:32:58

Noctaem wrote:
#8

Sands666

Oct 16, 2014 1:55:38

 

If you take a feat at level 4 and the variant human bumps two ability scores up by one it still has two skills that the regular human doesn't have (not so sidelong feats adding skills since both could've picked that via a feat). So I disagree that they're better in ever way. They still seem equal at this point to me. 

 

Strill wrote:
#9

Strill

Oct 16, 2014 3:03:59

Sands666 wrote:
#10

FluffyBunbunKittens

Oct 16, 2014 3:45:57

Strill wrote:
#11

Noctaem

Oct 16, 2014 4:08:40

Well you created a very specific scenario (half elf with a CHA build) to state that variant humans aren't better.  I'd like you to remove that pin hole vision you just adopted and look at the bigger picture of what exactly variant humans get.  The feat alone is unique to the variant and can improve ability scores along with a very wide amount of things.  For example, heavy armor master gives you resist 3 to all damage.  That's incredible powerful from level 1 - 5 at least and then you gain another feat.  There's entire builds that revolve around a specific feat, and being able to take it at level 1 is amazing.

 

Human variant is the most powerful race available.  Furthermore, 1 extra language and 1 extra skill are hardly what I would call a game changer.

#12

Strill

Oct 16, 2014 4:32:05

Well you created a very specific scenario (half elf with a CHA build) to state that variant humans aren't better.  I'd like you to remove that pin hole vision you just adopted and look at the bigger picture of what exactly variant humans get.  The feat alone is unique to the variant and can improve ability scores along with a very wide amount of things.  For example, heavy armor master gives you resist 3 to all damage.  That's incredible powerful from level 1 - 5 at least and then you gain another feat.  There's entire builds that revolve around a specific feat, and being able to take it at level 1 is amazing.
#13

Noctaem

Oct 16, 2014 4:35:42

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#14

Strill

Oct 16, 2014 4:46:10

Noctaem wrote:
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SteveMND

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Clutchbone

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