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#1 Foxface Sep 14, 2014 18:54:07	Situation: 1st level rogue in melee with monster. Wants to get away. Can disengage as an action, then move away at speed. Monster can move and attack on his turn, making disengaging pointless. Might as well attack and hope for low rolls from the monster.    Rogue can double move, but eats opportunity attack. Slightly better option.    Or rogue disengages and moves over difficult terrain. Rogue has acrobatics skill. DM has ruled that a successful acrobatics check ignores movement penalty.   Question: Is the acrobatics check an "action", or is it simply a check to determine movement rates?  If it's an action, the rogue can't disengage (until level 2).  If it is just a check, the rogue can disengage, or at 2nd level, disengage as a bonus action and attack a different monster.    I know what I would rule if I were DMing, but what does RAW say?
#2 Ashrym Sep 14, 2014 19:56:40	The acrobatics check is part of the move action because it's being used to enhance movement. The roll itself would not be an action in that scenario.
#3 Kennethray Sep 14, 2014 20:25:22	If the rogues speed is 30, it disengages to 60 feet away, the monster would need a speed of 60 to move up and attack.....   K-Ray
#4 Foxface Sep 14, 2014 20:31:14	Kennethray wrote:
#5 WibbleNZ Sep 14, 2014 20:33:23	Kennethray wrote:
#6 Kennethray Sep 14, 2014 20:44:46	Doesnt Disengage allow you to move 30 feet without provoking as a action, then you can do your move (another 30 feet), all before the rogue has or uses Cunning action to move yet another 30 feet?  If, of course, your speed is 30.   K-Ray.
#7 Kennethray Sep 14, 2014 20:49:08	It seems I have misread it. I have been treating it as Withdrawl from pathfinder. Blah. I learn something new about this game everyday.
#8 zgrose Sep 14, 2014 21:50:26	Foxface wrote:
#9 Foxface Sep 14, 2014 23:50:47	Thanks everyone!
#10 Timmee Sep 15, 2014 5:18:09	A player in my group missed Tumble from previous editions to avoid OAs, so I allowed him to make a Dex (Acrobatics) check to move half his speed and grant disadvantage on OAs from his opponents. But yes, Disengage as your action allows your movement and then you can continue to move your speed again.
#11 2Chlorobutanal Sep 15, 2014 5:31:28	If you're saying that Disengage gives extra movement, that's not correct.  It just prevents the provocation of opportunity attacks.  You move as normal, just as if you took the Attack or Cast a Spell actions.   Movement does not occur as "part of an action" in 5e - it's just something you can do on your turn.  Taking an action doesn't include extra movement unless it's some sort of teleportation action or the Dash action, which explicitly grants bonus movement (but again, the Dash itself doesn't actually move you, it just adds to your movement for the turn, which occurs before, after, or in between parts of actions).   Basically, if your speed is 30', you can normally: take the Attack action and move 30' in any combination of movements during your turn take the Cast a Spell action and move 30' in any combination of movements during your turn take the Help, Dodge, or Ready action (or any other action) and move 30' in any combination of movements during your turn take the Disengage action and move 30' in any combination of movements during your turn without provoking attacks of opportunity take the Dash action and move 60' (30' + 30') in any combination of movements during your turn