Action Surge

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#1

CulveDaddy

Dec 27, 2014 3:27:42

While playing a fighter, can I use extra attack to attack two or more times (depending on my level) and then use action surge with extra attack, again, to attack the same number of times? I ask because extra attack says "you can take one additional action on top of your regular action" and action surge says "whenever you take the Attack action on your turn." If so, at twentieth level you'd be able to attack eight times or nine times if dual-wielding. I just want to make sure I'm not missing something or misreading the rules.

#2

El_Condoro

Dec 27, 2014 3:51:18

Going by what those two features say, yes, the Action Surge could be used with Extra Attack, but it doesn't need to be an attack; any action, such as Dash, Disengage etc. could be used. But a 20th level fighter could attack 4 times and then use Action Surge to attack another 4 times.

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CulveDaddy

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#4

El_Condoro

Dec 27, 2014 4:05:43

From what I've heard, there are a few people doing exactly that. It does involve a sacrifice, of course, but it might be worth it in the long run.

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CulveDaddy

El_Condoro wrote:
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Undrhil

CulveDaddy wrote:
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CulveDaddy

Action Surge can only be used once per short / long rest.

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EzechielDantan

CulveDaddy wrote:
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CulveDaddy

Sure if your DM provides opportunity, typically once or twice in an adventuring day would be common in my campaign, but sometimes there is little restriction and sometimes there is no real opportunity for a short rest and you will only be worse for attempting it.

#10

Stormborn20

Dec 27, 2014 6:46:31

CulveDaddy wrote:
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CulveDaddy

A short rest is at least an hour long.  If you are in any sort of hostile environment, it could be tricky to find a safe spot for a full hour.  And if there is any time pressure, such as trying to track someone down, you really just can't spare taking an hour break after each skirmish.

#12

Stormborn20

Dec 27, 2014 7:17:12

CulveDaddy wrote:
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EzechielDantan

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#14

BRJN

Dec 27, 2014 11:20:50

EzechielDantan wrote:
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EzechielDantan

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BRJN

Dec 27, 2014 11:30:11

El_Condoro wrote:
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Undrhil

CulveDaddy wrote:
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CulveDaddy

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