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| #1Coredump00Jul 08, 2015 13:12:04 | Most of these are things I 'know', but either can't find, or am just doubting, or whatever.
1) Where does it say Dim light effects Perception checks
2) If standing in 2' of water and cast Conjure Bonfire... can I float it on the water? If on the ground, does it still work as normal?
3) If the Paladin goes down (making death saves), does the Steed stick around? What if dies (3 failed saves)?
4) IF a magical effect says "goes around corners"..... is there any limit to that? Will it just always fill the same volumne regardless of he number of turns?
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| #2jaelisJul 08, 2015 14:29:38 |
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| #3OoftaMegJul 08, 2015 17:32:30 |
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| #4YunruJul 08, 2015 17:49:56 | Can people please clarify 4? Sure it goes to the limit. But is that a sphere, or is it the distance? For instance if you had a 25ft fireball, would it travel 25 ft in each direction, accounting for corners (reducing the radial distance traveled in a certain distance), or out 25ft from impact, effecting all squares that can be linked to the point of impact (which doesn't account for corners adding distance)? |
| #5jaelisJul 08, 2015 18:23:07 | Well, fireball is only 20 ft. So a fireball effect will extent 20 ft from it's point of origin, and ignore intervening barriers as long as there is a path around the barrier that remains within the area of effect. You don't account for the added distance for going around corners. |
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| #7NevvurJul 08, 2015 19:45:46 | I agree with jaelis, here are some additional thoughts:
Create Bonfire: The only requirement is that the spellcaster can see the ground. If you can see the ground below the surface of the water, you can still cast the spell. The DM may wish to describe the "fire damage" as steam instead, or he may simply rule that the effect somehow displaces the water.
The more interesting question in my mind is how do we define the "ground?" Must it be earth or rock? Certainly this spell should be impossible if one is floating in the middle of the ocean with no land in sight, but would the deck of a ship count as ground? How about 6 feet of hard packed snow? If the caster is standing on one end of a banquet table, and he wants to Create Bonfire on the other end of the table, is this valid? The table is certainly not the ground in relation to the rest of the room. Ultimately, I think its DM fiat, but solid and horizontal are good starting points. The surface of a liquid should not count.
Find Steed: It's not a concentration spell, so it does not end when the caster goes unconscious. Similarly, enemies under the effect of a Sleep spell do not automatically awaken if the caster goes unconscious (or even dies). However, given that the steed shares a bond with the paladin, I think it is reasonable for the steed to disappear if the paladin dies. Nevertheless, I would personally rule that the steed remains until it is reduced to 0 HP or the combat ends, whichever comes first. If it is able to avenge the paladin, that makes for a cool story, not an easily exploited mechanic.
D&D allows for an afterlife, and I do not believe death breaks the bond between the paladin and his steed. If the paladin is raised from the dead, he summons the same steed as before his death. |
| #8mrpopstarJul 08, 2015 20:09:02 |
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| #9OoftaMegJul 08, 2015 21:09:31 | I would rule that if you conjure a bonfire on the ground that is a foot underwater that the fire is immediately extinguished.
Nothing in the spell says it is not just a normal fire. YMMV. |
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| #12Slagger_the_ChuulJul 09, 2015 3:16:45 | I'd probably rule that the fire is still there while you maintain concentration, but interacts with the water as normal fire would in the same situation (dousing the fire and heating the water). If you removed the water, the bonfire would resume its normal effect. |
| #13OoftaMegJul 09, 2015 5:58:27 | I base my ruling on the fact that create bonfire is a conjuration spell. Conjurations are things/creatures you create, but I don't view what is created as inherently magical.
If it were an evocation where you are manipulating magic to create a desired effect I would rule differently. But this is obviously a gray area, I can see ruling either way. |
| #14Slagger_the_ChuulJul 09, 2015 6:59:21 |
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| #15NevvurJul 09, 2015 9:48:49 | You specified 1 foot of water in your ruling, but where do you draw the line before it works as normal? 6 inches? 1 inch? 1/4?
How to rule on mud that comes up to shins? Is ground relative? A sprite might be able to walk across the surface of sufficiently thick mud as though it were solid ground, while larger creatures push through it. Can he cast Create Bonfire on the surface of this mud?
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| #16Slagger_the_ChuulJul 09, 2015 19:37:14 |
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| #19Slagger_the_ChuulJul 10, 2015 2:07:06 |
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