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#1 anicefella1 Apr 29, 2015 4:19:54	A mace is a wood club, just a nicer one.       S h i l l e l a g h Transmutation cantrip Casting Time: 1 bonus action Range: Touch Components: V, S, M (mistletoe, a shamrock leaf, and a club or quarterstaff) Duration: 1 minute The wood of a club or quarterstaff you are holding is imbued with nature’s power. For the duration, you can use your spellcasting ability instead o f Strength for the attack and damage rolls of melee attacks using that w eapon, and the weapon's damage die becomes a d8. The weapon also becomes magical, if it isn’t already. The spell ends if you cast it again or if you let go o f the weapon. S h o c k in g G
#2 AndrewJO Apr 29, 2015 4:40:01	No, it has to be a club or a quarterstaff.
#3 Badger2k Apr 29, 2015 5:17:06	A mace has metal parts, only the handle is made of wood. The spells doesn't affect metal, which is why it specifies clubs and quarterstaffs.
#4 Razintarr Apr 29, 2015 5:38:08	The spell description is clear, club or quarterstaff only.   The idea behind the spell is that it only effects wooden weapons, and that the mace is assumed to have a metal business end. I guess a mace with a wooden head instead would use the stats for the club (less damage but lighter then the mace) or if it was big enough the stats for the quarterstaff (same damage, big enough to use two-handed as well).
#5 jaelis Apr 29, 2015 5:39:42	You'd think it would work on a greatclub though.
(Reply to #5) AndrewJO	jaelis wrote:
(Reply to #6) Bloodscythe	AndrewJO wrote:
#8 Horwath Apr 29, 2015 8:59:46	how about a longbow as an option? No metal parts, except arrow heads. Same damage but you could use wisdom instead of dex.
#9 jaelis Apr 29, 2015 9:02:39	Melee attacks only. I guess you could use your bow as an improvised melee weapon. I don't know if I'd allow shillelagh to work on an improvised weapon or not.
#10 durntaur Apr 29, 2015 9:13:22	Bloodscythe wrote:
#11 AaronOfBarbaria Apr 29, 2015 9:30:19	No reason a DM can't choose to interpret "club" as meaning "any type of club, great or otherwise" rather than "the single weapon specifically named club".
#12 jaelis Apr 29, 2015 10:33:48	AaronOfBarbaria wrote:
(Reply to #12) Bloodscythe	jaelis wrote:
#14 Tempest_Stormwind Apr 29, 2015 11:26:27	Well, they *are* proficient with studded leather armor. They just "will not" wear armor "made of" metal. Subtle, but important, distinction. Also, I read Shilleglagh less as "this is my magic wooden beatstick!" and more as "this is a symbol of Gaea's might" - it's the religious or spiritual nature of the club and the staff that makes them valid parts of that spell, not merely that they're made of wood.
#15 jaelis Apr 29, 2015 11:28:15	Sorry, I forgot they were proficient. So never mind then!
#16 Illithidbix Apr 29, 2015 17:41:54	I've let my Druid to cast it on a chair leg before.
#17 lawrencehoy Apr 29, 2015 22:22:40	Tempest_Stormwind wrote:
#18 Razintarr Apr 30, 2015 0:50:47	Horwath wrote:
#19 Badger2k May 01, 2015 6:56:49	You can cast it on the bow, sure. The arrows however...   "The spell ends if you cast it again or if you let go of the weapon."   Since you are no longer in contact with the arrow after it's fired, it's just a normal arrow. Plus the spell was cast on the bow itself, not the individual arrows. You can still use the bow as an improvised melee weapon in a pinch (Oliver Queen does it all the time on Arrow ) or go all stabby like Legolas or Daryl if cast on an all-wooden arrow (if your DM is being generous), as long as you don't let go.
#20 mellored May 01, 2015 8:12:39	A DM can rule an improvised weapon is the same as another weapon.  i.e. a chair leg can be used as a club.   Thus, a mace, used as an improvised club, could be a target.
#21 jaelis May 01, 2015 8:26:10	mellored wrote:
(Reply to #21) ArialBlack	jaelis wrote:
#23 Captain_Kobold May 01, 2015 10:28:08	ArialBlack wrote: