Changing out Spells -Drudid

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#1

anicefella1

Apr 27, 2015 8:47:03

Question

 

I am playing a druid and want to know.  Can I change a known spell without taking a long rest?  Not all spells just one or two.  What is the rule for that?

 

#2

mellored

Apr 27, 2015 8:54:12

anicefella1 wrote:
#3

QwertyAzerty

Apr 27, 2015 9:28:36

what you can do is leave 1 or 2 spell unprepare

 

so at level 1 with 16 wisdom you can prepare 4 spell per day.

prepare 3 spell (healing word, entangle and faerie fire) and leave one unprepare.

 

Then at anytime you can take 1 minute per spell level to prepare that spell. Yes taking 1 minute in the middle of combat to prepare animal friendship might be difficult and risky, but taking 1 minutes to prepare detect poison before a meal can be fairly easy.

#4

Tempest_Stormwind

Apr 27, 2015 9:50:44
No, Qwerty, 5e does not allow that. You could do that in 3e, but not here - you prepare spells immediately after a long rest, and cannot do so any other time, even if some space is left "unprepared". The "1 minute per spell level" bit describes replacing a prepared spell immediately after a long rest; it does not change when you can prepare spells.
#5

Kentus

Apr 27, 2015 11:44:57

Tempest_Stormwind wrote:
#6

anicefella1

Apr 27, 2015 19:35:05

 I feel the key word in the sentence is CAN. It is not MUST.  Just because I can do something doesn't mean I must.  If I chooses to ask for two of my granted spells and wait 4 hours before I ask for one more of thoese granted spells then that is my choice.  Now the long rests allows me to "erase the slate" and start fresh. 

 

Please tell me the fault in logic  

#7

jaelis

Apr 27, 2015 20:28:33

anicefella1 wrote:
#8

anicefella1

Apr 28, 2015 6:11:00

Jaelis, Good point.. But using your logic.  If i get my chores done, then do my home work and then play my video games would I still get my but hit.  

 

The point I am making is that I see these spell slot like cash at a store.  By your logic I must use all of my cash in the first time I walk into the store.  I am saying that if I CHOOSE I can spend two of my three dollors in the first time I walk into the store, and then later come back and spend my third dollor.  Now if the DM saids you must spend X amount of time reseting up the ritutial to obtain the thrid spell choice, I am fine with that.  As long as I have the option to obtain the thrid spell choice.  

 

If you are making the rule out to be so restrictive then it should be written. 

 

You must change your list of prepared spells when you finish a long rest. Preparing a new list of druid
spells requires time spent in prayer and meditation: at least 1 minute per spell level for each spell on your list.

#9

jaelis

Apr 28, 2015 6:16:22

Read "can" as "are able."

 

You are able to change your spells after a long rest. The rules don't give you any other time to change your spells. It is not like cash, which you can spend when you want, because the rules don't say it works like that.

 

Your wording would require characters to change their spells every day, that is not intended.

#10

anicefella1

Apr 28, 2015 7:36:45

But in your prayer you are asking again for the spells if you wish to ask for different gifts than the day before then so be it.  If you ask for the same spells then also so be it. 

#11

mellored

Apr 28, 2015 7:44:59

anicefella1 wrote:
#12

lawrencehoy

Apr 28, 2015 10:09:45

Tempest_Stormwind wrote:
#13

jaelis

Apr 28, 2015 9:01:53

It sounds more like you do it after a long rest to me.  "You can change your list of prepared spells when you finish a long rest."

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Coredump00

anicefella1 wrote:
#15

mellored

Apr 28, 2015 9:07:46

Yea, it doesn't say "after"

 

it says...

You can also change your list of prepared spells when you finish a long rest.

 

 

Your welcome to play how you want (or your DM allows), but there'd be no point in saying that if you could prepare them at any time.

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Coredump00

mellored wrote:
#17

anicefella1

Apr 28, 2015 9:43:36

Thank you all for the debate.  The DM said no.  i just wanted to clarfy/challeng the rule..  watch out for more post like this from me as I venture into 5.0