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#1 juengel Aug 16, 2015 0:40:18	So the spell-less ranger class variant says it gets Combat Superiority and some other things to make up for not having spells. The feat martial adept stacks to give you more superiority dice if you already have them as it specifically says so. This got me thinking. If you multiclass with the spell-less ranger with a fighter to at least level 3 and get battle master for your archtype, would your combat superiority stack for a lot more dice and a lot of maneuvers. You could easily have 10 dice with both stacks and feat and 8 maneuvers starting and gaining more as you take ranger levels. At the earliest, you would be able to get this at 6, but it would make for a really amazing archer
#2 Yunru Aug 16, 2015 11:05:54	They would be seperate (I think?), but since the manuever pool is so low, that's effectively the same as stacking.
#3 Noctaem Aug 16, 2015 12:10:34	juengel wrote:
(Reply to #3) Yunru	Noctaem wrote:
#5 Avross Aug 16, 2015 13:10:59	The splat material isn't written as well as the core books, so a certain amount of DM ruling will be needed.   And there's actually two questions rolled into this one.   How many dice, and what type: Keeping the superiority dice as separate pools makes sense to me, since the fighter's superiority dice improve at higher levels, but the rangers do not.   And since they've gone and clearly indicated that the additional superiority die gained from the Martial Adept feat *does* stack and improve if you gain superiority dice from other levels, *I* would infer the lack of such a statement here means that the expectation is that you keep the dice separate.    Otherwise, you open the door for unintended power creep  (an 18th level fighter, whose superiority dice are d12s, could dip two levels into spell-less ranger to gain 4 more d12s.)   Which dice can power which maneuvers: Given the way that 5th edition handles spells slots for multiclassing, it makes sense to follow the same pattern here.  The manuevers read "expend one superiority die to...", and do not mention the source of the die.  So just like you wouldn't bother tracking which spell slots came from bard vs. wizard vs. cleric, it doesn't make sense to do so here.   There's not really any substantial room for power creep.
#6 jaelis Aug 16, 2015 13:19:58	I'd say you get all the dice, the size of each die is set by the class ability that grants it, and you can spend any die on any manuever. But this is certainly up to the DM to decide.