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| #1TyzzualAug 29, 2014 20:55:35 | Fighter- Battle Master-Disarming Attack-page 74-blah blah blah...the object lands at it's feet.
Interacting with objects-page 190- " Examples of things you can do in tandem with your movement and action" - draw or sheath a sword -open or close a door -pick up a dropped axe
Am i right to assume that if you move your speed and make a sucessful disarming attack, you can also pick up the dropped item as part of those actions? Or would i need another action to pick it up? Can i only pick up an "item" or is "item" a universal term for anthing (including weapon)?
Can i even pick it up as it's not in my square?
Would the monster be able to pick up the item as part of his action , or would he need an action to pick it up?
Any thoughts on this are greatly appreciated _Tyz_ |
| #22ChlorobutanalAug 29, 2014 23:36:50 | I would personally allow a Battlemaster to pick up a weapon he or she just disarmed with Disarming Attack on his or her turn- assuming the PC had a free hand. The PC would need to use their "Interacting with Objects" usage for the turn to pick up the disarmed item, thus they would need a free hand to do so and could not also sheathe a weapon beforehand. Thus, a fighter choosing to fight with just a one-handed weapon (such as a longsword or rapier, for example) who happened to disarm somebody could very much pick up the item they just disarmed on the same turn.
Regardless of wther you rule this way or not, it should be consistent for both enemies and PCs - if the PC can pick up an object as a "free" object interaction, enemies should be able to pick up their disarmed object for "free" as well on their turn.
PS: About the logistics of disarming and picking up:
I don't believe there are any specific rules about where disarmed or dropped objects land. Nor do I think there are specific rules about where an object should be relative to an actor in order to be picked-up. I think that anyone within 5' of an object could probably pick it up, and dropped objects probably fall within 5' of the person dropping them. |
| #3PsikerlordAug 30, 2014 4:56:12 |
I would say you need to dissrm, then push hkm away, then you can move in and pickup the object (or another pc does). I would say disarm with disad and you can end up with the weapon in gour spare hand, or in your square, or flicked 20' away, or whatever. |
| #4Plaguescarred1Aug 30, 2014 5:07:30 | While 4E rules specifically allowed to pick up an object in your space or in an unoccupied square within reach (PHB pg. 289) 5E has no such rules so you should be able to pick up an item in a space within your reach wether its occupied or not IMO.
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| #5shivafangAug 30, 2014 7:13:12 |
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| #6didon002Aug 30, 2014 8:02:54 | If I were a picky DM, because the action must be used "in tandem" with a movement, I would specify that you must move at least 1 square after you have disarmed the enemy in order to pick up the weapon. As others have already mentioned, you could instead use the "interact with object" action. Either way, as the weapon is in the enemy's square ("object lands at its feet") I think it's reasonable for a DM to rule that picking it up provokes an attack of opportunity. Then again, he has no weapon. |
| #7IxidorRSAug 30, 2014 10:23:47 |
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| #8KarlBAug 30, 2014 13:00:45 | Picking up an item in an object interaction. As long as you have a hand free (so you'd need a one handed weapon, or a versatile weapon), and haven't done any other object interaction that turn like drawing a weapon, you can pick it up.
Even better, since the Battlemaster's disarm is part of the Attack action, you can not only pick it up, but also attack with it as a bonus action, as per two weapon fighting rules. And since anything within 5 feet is considered within normal reach, you could pick it up if it's at the enemy's feet. Assuming you weren't attacking with a 10 foot reach weapon of course. In fact, come to think of it, current rules allow you to move between actions or attacks, so even if it was a bit further away, you could step forward and grab it. Assuming you're not leaving another enemy's threatening side (attack of opportunity). |