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Disciple of Life plus Grim Harvest...

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#1
dwgautier
Sep 22, 2014 19:27:20
Disciple of Life (Life Domain Cleric) plus Grim Harvest (necromancer lvl 2 power) can lead to some really good healing from the spell Vamperic Touch. Example:

Cast Vamperic Touch as a lvl 3 spell, it does 3d6 damage for say average damage of 10. Half of which the caster heals, for 5. If the wizard level dips into cleric for Disciple of life... now vamp touch heals for 10 instead of 5. If vamp touch kills the target it heals for 19!

Lets say Vamp touch was cast at lvl 6 level spell slot... average is now 21. Half heals for 10...with Disciple of life heals for 18, if it kills the target it heals the caster for 36.

This combo seems pretty good on a tanky Wizard/Cleric Build.

The question is would Disciple of life trigger from Grim Harvest? Example is now use Inflict wounds instead of vamp touch. If it kills the target would it heal just from Grim Harvest or Grim Harvest and Disciple of life?

#2
2Chlorobutanal
Sep 22, 2014 21:06:22
I would say that the Grim Harvest feature is healing the necromancer, not the spell that triggers the feature. Therefore, no double dipping on Disciple of Life.

#3
dwgautier
Sep 22, 2014 21:19:34
My gut was telling me the same thing. With vamp touch you still get to double dip though.

#4
2Chlorobutanal
Sep 22, 2014 22:18:31
You could theoretically get both effects separately, but not Disciple of Life twice.

#5
frbelanger
Sep 23, 2014 4:07:44
It is fun to remember that we have see the same kind of issue with the cleric healer's lore in 4th ed! They made an errata on it.

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#1 dwgautier Sep 22, 2014 19:27:20	Disciple of Life (Life Domain Cleric) plus Grim Harvest (necromancer lvl 2 power) can lead to some really good healing from the spell Vamperic Touch. Example: Cast Vamperic Touch as a lvl 3 spell, it does 3d6 damage for say average damage of 10. Half of which the caster heals, for 5. If the wizard level dips into cleric for Disciple of life... now vamp touch heals for 10 instead of 5. If vamp touch kills the target it heals for 19! Lets say Vamp touch was cast at lvl 6 level spell slot... average is now 21. Half heals for 10...with Disciple of life heals for 18, if it kills the target it heals the caster for 36. This combo seems pretty good on a tanky Wizard/Cleric Build. The question is would Disciple of life trigger from Grim Harvest? Example is now use Inflict wounds instead of vamp touch. If it kills the target would it heal just from Grim Harvest or Grim Harvest and Disciple of life?
#2 2Chlorobutanal Sep 22, 2014 21:06:22	I would say that the Grim Harvest feature is healing the necromancer, not the spell that triggers the feature. Therefore, no double dipping on Disciple of Life.
#3 dwgautier Sep 22, 2014 21:19:34	My gut was telling me the same thing. With vamp touch you still get to double dip though.
#4 2Chlorobutanal Sep 22, 2014 22:18:31	You could theoretically get both effects separately, but not Disciple of Life twice.
#5 frbelanger Sep 23, 2014 4:07:44	It is fun to remember that we have see the same kind of issue with the cleric healer's lore in 4th ed! They made an errata on it.