So if you got at least lvl 2 Rogue then had a melee class that gave you multi-attacks per attack action, could you use cunning action AND do a multi-attack? Because from what I understand, Cunning Action is its own seperate additional action.
Yes,
Mutli-attack is an action.
Cunning Action is a bonus action.
You get 1 action, and 1 bonus action (and 1 reaction) per round.
mellored wrote:
WanderingBard wrote:
WanderingBard wrote:
Set aside ALL thoughts of "stacking". It doesn't exist in this game. ("Stacking" defines situations where 2+3 does not equal 5, rather than situations where it does.)
What you want to look at to answer questions like this is the action demands.
Every creature gets one action per turn. If that action is "Attack", and they have the Extra Attack feature, that's two attacks in one action.
If they have a feature that lets them take a bonus action, they can take one bonus action per turn. You can only take ONE of these, no matter how many options you have for it. (In previous editions, this concept is more or less identical to swift actions or minor actions.) In the case of the Rogue, you have Cunning Action, which allows you to take the Hide, Dash, or Disengage action as a bonus action.
Notice how "Attack" isn't on the list of things Cunning Action can provide?
Nothing stops you from taking Attack (and attacking twice with Extra Attack) and still using your bonus action to, say, Dash between targets, or to Hide (in fact, you could move from hiding, attack twice, move back to a nearby hiding spot with your remaining normal movement, then use Cunning Action to hide.)
However, you can't use Cunning Action itself to attack - only to hide, dash, or dodge. (Thieves and Arcane Tricksters add a few extra options to this, but you're not looking at the Thief or Arcane Trickster archetypes.)
There is one method available to everyone to use their bonus action for an extra attack, and that's Two-Weapon Fighting. However, if you use it, you would not be able to use Cunning Action as well (since you can only take one bonus action per turn). This is the reason why Fancy Footwork works the way it does - you can use your bonus action to attack with a second blade and you still get most of the benefits of Disengage with that attack.
That said, yes, it's pretty well known that Rogue 3 (for Cunning Action and, typically, Assassinate; the Swashbuckler option gives you TWF + a "free disengage") + Fighter 5 (for Extra Attack and, especially, Action Surge) produces oodles of attacks.
Tempest_Stormwind wrote:
Coredump00 wrote:
Tempest_Stormwind wrote:
Can we have one thread in the RQ forum that doesn't devolve into a pedantic argument over definitions?
ZHDarkstar wrote:
stacking does not exist in 5e. no pc class gains multiattack feature. this is not a discussion, these are the rules of the game, period. now I agree common parlance for certain rules like extra attack and additional bonuses leads us to an understanding of these terms (I get what you mean), but when discussing the RULES we have to stick with the legally defined terms, not parlance.
so to answer the OP formally, NO. because no PC gets multiattack...
on another note I am really wanting to play a multiclass Fighter/Rogue because Cunning Action and Extra Attack can be used in conjunction. (full time DM so never gonna happen).
strider13x wrote:
i stand corrected, chuul. but that only furthers my point that correct use of language when speaking of D&D rules and defintions (rather than websters dictionary) is paramount. otherwise the conversation becomes meaningless as we have to define which defintion we intend (should we but a side bar by each word? multiattack[phb] or multiattack[parlance])
Pedantic
1. ostentatious in one's learning.
2. overly concerned with minute details or formalisms, especially in teaching.
was that pedantic enough for you, mellored? 
and for those of you who dont hear me my tounge is firmly planted in cheek...
5e D&D! The addition edition! 
...anybody? 
Tempest_Stormwind wrote:
strider13x wrote:
by tortoise were you refering to a terrestrial turtle (see MM3 p.367), or to a slow slow moving person or thing? my immersion would be totally broken by a talking terrapin.
Yunru wrote:
It was said a couple times in the thread, before devolving into meaninglessness, that you can take the Dodge action with Cunning Action. This isn't so. Dash, Disengage, and Hide are your options with the base ability.
strider13x wrote:
lawrencehoy wrote:
Everything would be better if an arcane trickster could use cunning action to cast comprehend languages.
mellored wrote:
I read tempest_stormwind's treatise on stacking, made my Intelligence Saving Throw, Disbelieved and kept all my sanity points.
Q: When did stacking ever mean anything other than "legally adding modifiers together" in the context of RPG's?
A: Never. It has never meant anything else.
Stacking = Adding modifiers together. Full stop.
Is it legal to add modifiers together in 5E?
In many cases, yes.
Therefore, stacking exists in 5E.
Have a pleasant evening.
Gotta go kill a dragon tomorrow.