Dueling Fighting Style

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#1

AttilathePun

Apr 19, 2015 8:21:40

I was looking over the fighter class in the PHB and something in the wording of the Dueling fighting style gave me pause.  It says "When you are wielding a melee weapon in one hand and no other weapons, you gain a +2 bonus to damage rolls with that weapon."  (emphasis mine)  I had originally thought that this feature was intended to help make concepts like a fencer viable, where you just use a single one handed weapon, but the way the feature is worded it seems to allow for use of a shield as well.  Am I reading this right?

#2

iserith

Apr 19, 2015 8:23:16

Sure.

#3

AaronOfBarbaria

Apr 19, 2015 10:26:42

Yes, the dueling style as worded allows for the other hand to be holding things that aren't weapons - a torch, lantern, magic item, shield, or a heavy cape used to distract your opponent an bind up their weapon (a shield with a fencing-flavored description) are all good suggestions as to what kind of thing a duelist might hold.

#4

jaelis

Apr 19, 2015 11:03:08

What it amounts to is, that Dueling just isn't really a very good name for the style. Thought it's hard to come up with a really good one.

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AaronOfBarbaria

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#6

jaelis

Apr 19, 2015 11:20:17

Because this is what you get if you Google 'duelist' and look at the images.

 

Perhaps it isn't logical, but I think most people don't associate shields with duels.

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EmpactWB

jaelis wrote:
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jaelis

Apr 19, 2015 11:43:57

EmpactWB wrote:
#9

AaronOfBarbaria

Apr 19, 2015 11:51:13

...so we should be complaining that dueling style doesn't involve pistols? (or banjos... or violins... hopefully you get the point)

#10

jaelis

Apr 19, 2015 11:55:38

AaronOfBarbaria wrote:
#11

EmpactWB

Apr 19, 2015 12:38:02

I'm going to throw in my support for a Bard subclass that gets to use banjos with the Dueling fighting style.

 

I disagree with the fantasy context excluding shields from duels thematically. A Renaissance or modern setting, certainly, but when I think of fantasy duels, I'm usually thinking knights with sword and shield (particularly the post-joust fracas).

#12

Greenstone.Walker

Apr 19, 2015 16:42:06

Perhaps a better name for it is "SIngle-weapon fighting style"?

#13

guachi

Apr 19, 2015 18:52:01

Isn't that what is was called in 2e, "single-weapon fighting style"?

#14

Stormborn20

Apr 19, 2015 19:47:34

Greenstone.Walker wrote:
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cowleymen

Apr 19, 2015 22:43:06

I dont know what yall are talking about. The first thing that came to my mind when I read duelist was this

 

IMAGE(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs7/i/2005/209/b/c/Duelist_of_the_Rose_by_teanachan.jpg)

#16

durntaur

Apr 20, 2015 12:07:52

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Tempest_Stormwind

Apr 20, 2015 12:43:21

durntaur wrote:
#18

jaelis

Apr 20, 2015 20:55:46
So looking at dnd itself through the ages:
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jonathonhawke

Apr 20, 2015 23:42:40

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Coredump00

Apr 21, 2015 9:31:05

IIRC there was a duelist during 1E in Dragon.... they got special bonuses if they matched weapons with their opponent.  So shortword vs shortsword, or mace vs mace, etc.  I really liked it, but can no longer remember why. (I was young, so it may have just been brokenly powerful....)

#21

jaelis

Apr 21, 2015 11:04:14

jonathonhawke wrote: