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#1 tyrionlannister2113 Jul 06, 2015 14:05:23	Going off the errata for the Player's Handbook, it states that when hiding the question shouldn't be "whether a creature can see you when hiding" but rather if it can "see you clearly". What exactly does this mean? Does it imply that whenever you're hiding, characters and monsters just can't fully see you, and that they ignore you if you're obscured to a certain extent? How does this apply when invisible?
#2 jaelis Jul 06, 2015 17:28:08	The main point is that the DM gets to decide when the circumstances are right for hiding, it's not automatic based on whether you're seen or not.   What exactly it means to be hidden is a bit ambiguous, but IMO it means that your opponent doesn't know where you are. Often that means (and requires) that they can't see you, but it could also mean that you're visible but camoflaged or obscurred in such a way that your opponent can't recognize you.   If you're invisible then your opponent can't see you, but they might be able to hear you or see traces of your passage. You can try to hide to avoid that.   Hope that helps.
#3 mrpopstar Jul 06, 2015 18:03:00	tyrionlannister2113 wrote:
#4 OoftaMeg Jul 06, 2015 19:50:05	The rules for hiding are quite fuzzy, but that's intentional.  There are so many variations of what situation it might make sense to hide under that  trying to quantify them all would be impractical.   You need to take into account whether the creature(s) you're hiding from are paying attention, can they see you clearly, would you look out of place, etc, etc, etc.