High Elves' Cantrip

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#1

MarcCCTx

Jul 06, 2014 6:43:22

If a High Elf Fighter takes a spell like Fire Bolt as his cantrip, does he get his Proficiency Bonus to the Intelligence roll?

 

I can see it either way.

 

Page 81 - Attack Rolls says "Your attack bonus with a spell attack equals your spellcasting ability modifier + your proficiency bonus."

 

But you're really not a magic-user so are you still considered proficient?

#2

Plaguescarred1

Jul 06, 2014 6:48:09

Yes you add your spellcasting ability modifier and proficiency like all spellcaster.  

#3

Archon007

Jul 06, 2014 8:12:28

I believe any spell you know you are considered proficient in. Maybe casting from a scroll or wand you wouldn't, not sure though. 

#4

Plaguescarred1

Jul 06, 2014 9:29:47

Not just spell you know, but any spell you cast. Basic D&D PDF (pg. 7) says; 

 

Your proficiency bonus applies to many of the
numbers you’ll be recording on your character sheet:

• Attack rolls using weapons you’re proficient with
Attack rolls with spells you cast
• Ability checks using skills you’re proficient in
• Ability checks using tools you’re proficient with
• Saving throws you’re proficient in
• Saving throw DCs for spells you cast (explained in
each spellcasting class)

#5

Psikerlord

Jul 06, 2014 15:46:21

Fighter is better off shooting his bow, than using Firebolt however. It does look cool and set things on fire but i guess.

#6

Psikerlord

Jul 06, 2014 15:46:46

Fighter is better off shooting his bow, than using Firebolt however. It does look cool and set things on fire but i guess.

#7

jaelis

Jul 06, 2014 16:00:00

I would always take minor illusion. Best cantrip in the book, IMO!

#8

FallingIcicle

Jul 06, 2014 16:58:50

jaelis wrote:
#9

pukunui

Jul 06, 2014 19:06:17

FallingIcicle wrote:
#10

FallingIcicle

Jul 06, 2014 19:11:15

pukunui wrote:
#11

Sword_of_Spirit

Jul 06, 2014 20:26:32

Minor illusion also can't place a convincing illusory wall anymore, since its max dimensions are now 5' x 5'.

#12

Ramzour

Jul 07, 2014 5:59:08

Let's be honest....the change to Minor Illusion was a good change! It was way overpowered in the playtest. I like the distinction between Minor Illusion and Silent Image now.

#13

Sword_of_Spirit

Jul 07, 2014 10:20:02

Yes, it was overpowered. But it was cool. It's one of those changes I agree with as a DM, but find disappointing as a player. Good thing I'm usually the DM.

#14

FallingIcicle

Jul 07, 2014 11:29:56

Ramzour wrote: