Is an attack roll a strength/dexterity check?

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#1

CodeRonin

Sep 14, 2014 10:54:21

Is an attack roll considered a strength or dexterity check for purposes of effects that grant advantage on strength/dexterity checks? I'm thinking things like the barbarian's rage or the Enhance Ability spell.

#2

Kentus

Sep 14, 2014 10:59:22

No, an attack roll is an attack roll. Roughly every d20 roll a player usually make is an ability check, an attack roll or a saving throw. Here we have one of the lead designers answering a question, which touches the subject.

 

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#3

Plaguescarred1

Sep 14, 2014 11:25:25

No an attack roll is not a Strength check or saving throw even if its Strength based.  Attack roll, ability checks and saving throws are three distinct mechanics; 

 

 

PHB171 Using Ability Scores:  The three main rolls of the game—the ability check, the saving throw, and the attack roll—rely on the six ability scores. The book’s introduction describes the basic rule behind these rolls: roll a d20, add an ability modifier derived from one o f the six ability scores, and compare the total to a target number. This chapter focuses on how to use ability checks and saving throws, covering the fundamental activities that creatures attempt in the game. Rules for attack rolls appear in chapter 9.

#4

Timborama

Sep 15, 2014 9:55:18

Someone once explained it, and I liked it so much I remembered it:

 

There are 3 kinds of d20 rolls: Ability checks, attack rolls, and saves. While these often contain sub-sets of other things (like specific skill checks, melee attacks, Consitution Saves, etc.), none of these three overlap with one-another.

 

So an Attack Roll will never be an Ability Check (as of right now), no more so than a Save could be considered an Attack Roll!

#5

Kalani

Sep 15, 2014 15:09:10

Timborama wrote:
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AaronOfBarbaria

Kalani wrote:
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Kalani

Sep 15, 2014 12:18:16

AaronOfBarbaria wrote:
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Plaguescarred1

Sep 15, 2014 12:43:49

Kalani wrote:
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Kalani

Sep 15, 2014 15:11:16

Plaguescarred wrote:
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Plaguescarred1

Sep 15, 2014 15:19:52

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Ashrym

Sep 16, 2014 1:05:40

There are several ability checks listed that are not part of skill checks.  Some listed examples:

 

STR: break open barred, locked, or stuck doors; break free of bonds

DEX: tie up a prisoner; wriggle free of bonds

CON: hold your breath; forced march; survive without food or water

INT: assess value of precious items; forge documents

WIS: gain a hunch or gut feeling; identify a creature as living or undead

CHA: blend in to a crowd; gather information

 

Some of those seem like they should see errata, however. For example, the adventuring section calls for CON saves instead of checks for half rations of water or forced marching.