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#1 Georlik Apr 28, 2015 14:06:22	Greetings!   I decided to create an illusionist wizard for the upcoming game. Reading through the Improved Minor Illusion class feature, I became confused. When you cast minor illusion, yau can create both a sound and an image with a single casting of the spell. I can not seem to imagine medieval-esque object that stays immoble and still emits sounds. The best application I can think of is to make some preliminary sound and show an image as an aftermath (ripping noise and a rupture on someone pants f.e.) Nowadays we have lots of machinery which still emits sounds and stays seemingly motionless, but if we are talking about generic fantasy (excluding Ebberon or any other "punk" world) all such illusions would seem unnatural.   Do you have any advice on how to use this feature to its fullest extent?
#2 Kentus Apr 28, 2015 15:12:04	Illusion spells are often DM-dependant, but here are some easy pointers.   1.) Minor illusion have no V-component, so as long as you are not seen, you can cast it multiple times to make some slow movements 2.) Distance and visibility make it harder to figure out small changes in movement, so normally no one would notice that a meowing cat is not moving its mouth, as long as it stands a few yards away. 3.) A small chest where something living might be inside is something, which definitely gets attention in one or another way. Other objects which are making sounds which they aren't not supposed to, are attention grapper, as well. 4.) If you create an illusion image+sound where it is not seen, the sound will make people aware of it and the image will make them try to interact with it in some way.   In the end, illusion is about the ability to play with expectations. You can only trick someone if you know how he/she is supposed to react.   Best thing I saw was the illusion of the gnome illusionist, who only showed the back to the tricked people. A good distraction to sneak away.
#3 Danny_Montanny Apr 29, 2015 4:36:41	I don't see how even Minor Illusions could be static and be confused as real. There has to some movement in it. A picture of a fire is never mistaken for an actual fire.
#4 Kentus Apr 29, 2015 6:05:02	Danny_Montanny wrote:
#5 Stabtar Apr 29, 2015 7:20:00	Kentus wrote:
#6 jaelis Apr 29, 2015 7:47:03	The spell doesn't say that it is static, just that it is the image of an object. If it is a naturally dynamic object (a pendulum clock, say) then I would let it move. I don't think an illusion of a fire would work very well though because it can't create light.   If the object is one that makes a sound, then it makes sense for an illusionist to produce an appropriate sound. But you could also produce an unrelated sound like muttered conversation or footsteps.
#7 durntaur Apr 29, 2015 9:08:20	jaelis wrote:
(Reply to #6) QwertyAzerty	jaelis wrote:
#9 Jenks Apr 30, 2015 10:48:41	With implications from silent image, I would say that a minor illusion does not move. A minor illusion is a coin on the ground, a sword on your hip, or a growl coming from seemingly nowhere. It does not move. That's what silent image is for.