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| #1Raijin411Apr 06, 2015 7:42:56 | Hi there |
| #2melloredApr 06, 2015 8:01:42 | Compaired to wish, meteor swarm, or true polymorph? No.
Plus, you need both a fighter and a wizard combined. That said, it's certainly not weak. |
| #3KentusApr 06, 2015 8:02:15 | Well, it IS a 9th level spell. And it isn't all-powerful, as long as the DM isn't out of his mind. In a white-room scenario without moving and such, yes, the fighter might be able to take that CR20 monster (depending on the build and the monster) or he might simply be plane shifted instead, because the lack of CHA-save proficiency and a spell DC, which is too high to reliabily succeed even with advantage. Then he's in the elemental plane of fire and let's see how good he can cope with it with his items. ;) |
| #4CooperjeraApr 06, 2015 10:52:48 | As a comparison let's pair a warlock with Devil Sight next to a barbarian with 3rd level Wolf totem. The warlock casts darkness and can see in the magical darkness. The barbarian moves to within 5ft of the enemy. Now the attacks by the barbarians allies are at advantage. The attacks by those into the darkness is at disadvantage. The warlock is at advantage on the attacks and attacks at him are most likely at disadvantage. If the enemy and barbarian are in the darkness then the barbarian has both advantage (Swing Wild or something like that) and disadvantage (Darkness) and thus rolls only one d20. The enemy is still at disadvantage, assuming they don't have a sense that bypasses Darkness.
My point, the spell sounds good, but it can be achieved at 3rd level with a barbarian and warlock or some other combination. The second point, advantage can be negated in several ways, and the same applies with disadvantage, therefore the spell is not nearly as powerful as at first glance.
A couple other things to consider with regards to advantage and disadvantage: 1) Grapple is not an attack roll and may not be affected by the spell, 2) Fog cloud makes the environment heavily obscured for many, 3) A character that is both grappled and prone, or incompacitated is at disadvantage to their attacks, 4) some monsters make attacks at advantage with right conditions, and 5) at least one monster (Tarrasque) causes you to make a save at disadvantage. |
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| #8Byakugan01Apr 13, 2015 0:24:24 | Foresight is strong...but it isn't automatically better than wish, which can restore the dead to life for example, or do a wide variety of powerful effects.
Or true polymorph, or 40d6 meteor swarm, which could wipe out entire armies.
And you only get 1 ninth level spell...if you put it on the fighter, how do YOU plan to make your own saving throws? Tough choice. |
| #9Danny_MontannyApr 13, 2015 11:21:04 |
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