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#1 mellored Feb 04, 2015 9:20:02	What happens if i use malleable illusion on simulacrum?   Can i change a copy of a wizard into one of the fighter? Can i change a copy of the fighter into one of the wizard? If so, what happens with spells and hit points?
#2 Timborama Feb 04, 2015 10:28:17	It's a headache. I had some responses, but that's the best thing I can say. It's a headache. Easiest answer: No, because the duration disqualifies it. (1 min vs. "until dispelled")   Anything else gets into: Do I need their bodies on hand? Do I spend money each time? Do they start with Fresh HP and/or spells? All of which seem very gamey, and more fit for a super-annoying BBEG or a theory bot (though the best theory bot is still Simulacrum someone with Wish prepared, and then make infinite Simulacrums...)
#3 mellored Feb 04, 2015 10:45:09	Timborama wrote:
#4 Kalani Feb 04, 2015 10:54:08	Simulacrums don't have souls to transfer into a magic jar.... They are what they say on the tin... A simulacrum of the individual, a facsimile....They have more in common with a construct than they do with the original person.
#5 Yunru Feb 04, 2015 10:55:49	As a Warforged I resent that.
#6 mellored Feb 04, 2015 10:56:38	Kalani wrote:
#7 Timborama Feb 04, 2015 11:20:06	Golems are often "infused" with an elemental spirit, no? So...same thing that happens when you body-swap with an elemental! Assuming it's possible, even, due to creature type (it isn't for either)   As for the duration issue? That's my simplest explanation to nip a problem in the bud by the (slightly twisted) rules.
(Reply to #6) AaronOfBarbaria	mellored wrote:
(Reply to #8) Timborama	AaronOfBarbaria wrote:
#10 mellored Feb 04, 2015 11:24:59	AaronOfBarbaria wrote:
(Reply to #10) AaronOfBarbaria	mellored wrote:
#12 Kalani Feb 04, 2015 12:13:25	I may have misread the initial question. I thought the simulacrum was casting magic jar, and seeing as it doesn't have a true soul (per se), there would be nothing for the simulacrum to transfer into the magic jar.    If you are talking about possessing the simulacrum - I see that as a perfect use of the magic jar spell, and is very much a Palpatine darkside thing to do (in the comics, Palpatine returns in a cloned body, causing Luke to seek him out, and become his apprentice in an effort to uncover his secret clone factory and destroy it - only for Luke to succumb to the darkside albeit briefly).