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#1 obsid Aug 23, 2014 0:33:00	So your at range from an enemy, you walk up to 10 feet and attack with a glaive, halberd, or pike, and then back up 5 feet.  You have Polearm Master and Sentinel feats.  When the enemy come within 10 feet of you they enter your reach and provoke an opertunity attack from the polearm master feat.  Assuming you hit them, the Sentinel feat triggers and reduces thier speed to 0, so they are now stuck unable to move or attack (assuming they can only hit melee).  On your turn you hit them and back up 5 feet.  Assuming you keep hitting with your oppertunity attacks there isnt really anything they can do other then sit there being a pin cushion right?  Does that seem OP to you?
#2 CorwynnMaelstrom Aug 23, 2014 0:37:06	They should probably find someone else to kill, or hope you don't hit them on the approach.
#3 2Chlorobutanal Aug 23, 2014 0:40:55	It seems to work for me, but again it requires two feats and a specific type of weapon.  It also requires you to succeed in your opportunity attack, and only works in the context of one character trying to close with one enemy.  If there are multiple enemies, only the first one to approach will be (potentially) stopped by the opportunity attack.   In the same vein, a spellcaster with ray of frost could hit a character from up to 60' away and then move at least 25', ensuring that they will always remain outside the range of a creature with a 30' move or less.
#4 Diceman65 Aug 23, 2014 3:39:10	obsid wrote:
#5 OoftaMeg Aug 23, 2014 7:58:10	Also expect differing rulings from different DMs.  Some people believe that reach weapons only increase your reach when you are taking the attack action.  Kind of like reach and threatening reach from 4E.   NOTE:  I am not trying to start another war about this ... enough bits have been wasted on the other thread.  Just pointing out that some DMs will only let you smack creatures when they are adjacent (within 5 ft) so best to ask your DM first.
#6 Thoughts_My_Aim Aug 23, 2014 8:02:42	Not overpowered except in very specific circumstances where it absolutely *should* be overpowered, like a one-on-one duel with an enemy wielding a shorter weapon who has no ranged attacks. In which case ... yes being able to keep your opponent at a distance with your longer weapon makes perfect sense.   Heck you could argue that it's *underpowered* because it's requiring two feats to do something that a person with a longer weapon should really be able to do *anyway*. Keeping people at the right distance for your weapon is basically fighting 101.   And actually I think it might even be better than you think. I *believe* the attack interrupts the movement, so they don't even get to come within 10' of you (or, if you rule that the attack only fires when going from 10' to 5', they are stuck at 10' distance). But I could be wrong on that.
#7 Diceman65 Aug 23, 2014 10:17:09	Thoughts_My_Aim wrote:
#8 Veleria Aug 23, 2014 10:25:13	It's not overpowered. any character that has this before level 8 minimum will have skipped stat bumps and lost accuracy  to get 2 feats if human. Otherwise level 10 fighter or 12-16 in other melee classes. By that point stopping one enemy should be fine. Sure a level 4 Human can achieve this but they are paying a large opportunity cost for a cute trick.
#9 Thoughts_My_Aim Aug 23, 2014 11:08:28	Veleria wrote:
#10 AethicTactition Aug 30, 2014 0:41:20	So if the attack of opportunity is different how exactly does the pole arm master work. Me and my DM are at a debate due to one of our encounters. skeletons were massing around me. Due to reaction we only get one if I'm correct. BUT it States that when an enemy steps within range I get an attack of opportunity. Would I get only 1 attack of opportunity against the first target or would I get an opportunity attack to all of them.
(Reply to #10) 2Chlorobutanal	AethicTactition wrote:
(Reply to #11) AethicTactition	2Chlorobutanal wrote:
#13 shivafang Aug 30, 2014 7:44:17	OoftaMeg wrote:
#14 Plaguescarred1 Aug 30, 2014 9:00:53	FYI Both Co-Creators Mike Mearls and Jeremy Crawford confirmed on twitter that the reach property was not intended to only increase when attacking and Jeremy further clarified the distance at which a Polearm Master OA is provoked depending on the weapon wielded;     @JeremyECrawford On the grid, the target is adjacent if you're using a quarterstaff, but 5 feet away with the other PM weapons.
#15 shivafang Aug 30, 2014 9:20:49	Plaguescarred wrote:
#16 h347h50 Aug 30, 2014 9:51:36	shivafang wrote:
#17 shivafang Aug 30, 2014 10:02:38	h347h50 wrote:
#18 CorwynnMaelstrom Aug 30, 2014 11:46:07	shivafang wrote:
#19 shivafang Aug 30, 2014 11:53:10	CorwynnMaelstrom wrote:
#20 Thoughts_My_Aim Aug 30, 2014 11:53:17	shivafang wrote:
#21 shivafang Aug 30, 2014 12:21:09	Thoughts_My_Aim wrote:
#22 Thoughts_My_Aim Aug 30, 2014 12:26:07	shivafang wrote:
#23 shivafang Aug 30, 2014 12:37:05	Thoughts_My_Aim wrote:
#24 Plaguescarred1 Aug 30, 2014 12:52:00	Another way to look at it, what is reach essentially? Reach is by definition the distance within which you can make melee attack.    PHB195 Melee Attacks: Most creatures have a 5-foot reach and can thus attack targets within 5 feet of them when making a melee attack.    Creatures with 5-foot reach can thus attack targets within 5 feet of them when making a melee attack. Likewise creatures with 10-foot reach can thus attack targets within 10 feet of them when making a melee attack. So when somethign refer to your reach, it essentially refers to the distance within which you can make melee attacks. If you replace the word "reach"  with its definition in Polearm Master; you get;   "While you are wielding a glaive, halberd, pike, or quarterstaff, other creatures provoke an opportunity attack from you when they enter the distance within which you can make melee attack"   This also align with Jeremy Crawford's clarification on why the quaterstaff and other polearm have different triggering distance with the feat.
#25 shivafang Aug 30, 2014 12:56:14	Yup.  I get that interpretation - I do.  It's just not the only way to read the line.   A better wording would have been; "Reach.  This weapon adds 5 feet to your reach when you are wielding it."   Attacking with it implies that you must actually be attacking (which you are not when an enemy is moving into or out of your reach).   Do you see how much cleaner the above is?  The very fact that it's not worded this simply in and of itself leads one to believe that they meant specifically what they said - only when you are attacking with it.    I stand by the opinion that they dropped the ball if they intended it to work this way, as the suggestion I just made would have solved the issue entirely.
#26 h347h50 Aug 30, 2014 13:46:21	shivafang wrote:
#27 Jay_Ibero_911 Aug 30, 2014 15:43:28	h347h50 wrote:
#28 Captain_Kobold Aug 30, 2014 15:48:22	h347h50 wrote:
#29 h347h50 Aug 30, 2014 16:42:17	Jay_Ibero_911 wrote:
#30 Thoughts_My_Aim Aug 30, 2014 16:52:36	Jay_Ibero_911 wrote:
#31 shivafang Aug 30, 2014 16:58:43	Thoughts_My_Aim wrote:
#32 Thoughts_My_Aim Aug 30, 2014 17:03:39	shivafang wrote:
#33 shivafang Aug 30, 2014 17:31:47	Thoughts_My_Aim wrote:
#34 jonathonhawke Aug 31, 2014 20:07:45	An even better wording would have been; "Reach.  This weapon adds 5 feet to your reach (with this weapon) when you are wielding it."
#35 Plaguescarred1 Sep 01, 2014 5:23:58	Or just:   "Reach.  Your reach increase by 5 feet with this weapon."
#36 Plaguescarred1 Sep 01, 2014 5:34:09	FWIW NPC statblocks having reach weapon have a reach of 10 feet i.e Frulam Mondath in Hoard of the Dragon Queen has a reach of 10 feet with his halberd;   Halberd. Melee Weapon Attack: +5 to hit, reach 10 ft., one target.  Hit: 7 (1d10 + 2) bludgeoning damage.
#37 Psikerlord Sep 01, 2014 5:55:32	obsid wrote: