Ready Multiple Attacks

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#1

c0r3

Jul 18, 2014 7:38:51

If a 5th level fighter fighting with two light weapons readies the attack action, I think RAW says:

 

When his trigger goes off and he gets his attack action he will get two attacks because of his 5th level fighter feature.  He will not be able to take the bonus action with the offhand weapon because it is not his turn and readied actions can only trigger a single action outside of his turn.

 

Do I have that right?

#2

Noctaem

Jul 18, 2014 9:24:56

Yes the bonus action from wielding two light weapons can only be taken on your own turn.  Having the readied action go off doesn't change that unfortunately.

#3

c0r3

Jul 18, 2014 14:09:06

But the readied action will include multiple attacks from the fighter's bonus attacks feature?  So in this case two attacks from the pimary weapon and none from the off hand weapon.

 

Again I'm pretty sure thats what it says, just ... strange.

#4

Noctaem

Jul 18, 2014 17:45:11

Yes because you're taking the Attack action which gets the extra attacks.

 

EDIT:  This is incorrect.  The Extra Attack feature actually specifies that it only works "on your turn" so an Attack Action readied during your turn which then goes off as a reaction outside of your own turn would not benefit.

#5

Ashrym

Jul 18, 2014 16:51:16

 

I don't agree that readying gives multiple attacks. Extra attack adds an attack when the fighter takes the attack action, which uses the action in combat. Readying an action uses up the action and leaves a reaction for the actual attack. There is a difference between the attack action and making an attack.

#6

Noctaem

Jul 18, 2014 17:52:29

After re-reading the feature I realized I made a key mistake.  In the feature itself it actually specifies that:

 

"... whenever you take the Attack Action on your turn."

 

I've edited my previous post to reflect this.  The answer is that you don't get the extra attacks from the feature outside of your own turn, just like you don't get the extra attack from wielding two light weapons as a bonus action outside of your turn.

 

Sorry for the mistake.

 

However what Ashrym is describing wouldn't matter if the "on your turn" clause was not part of the feature.  When you ready an action, the action is still exactly what it is.  I could ready a move action which would go off as a reaction, but would still be a move action which could potentially benefit from other things because it's a move action.  So if the "on your turn" clause was missing, you would get the Extra Attack benefit because you're taking an Attack Action, only as a reaction outside of your turn.  I believe this is exactly why they added the "on your turn" clause to begin with.

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Ashrym

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#8

Noctaem

Jul 18, 2014 22:46:47

I'm sorry but that doesn't make sense.  Anything can be done as a reaction basically.  You say I ready my action to move if the goblin gets close.  I ready my Attack Action when the goblin gets closer.  Readying an Attack Action doesn't change the fact that it's an Attack Action.  It just eats your Reaction Action out of turn when it goes off.  Either way though, we're discussing something that can't actually happen so :p

#9

c0r3

Jul 19, 2014 15:04:23

Noctaem, great catch, it does infact say the bonus attacks are only on the fighter's turn.  Which, that makes the most sense to me and now that RAI and RAW seem to be the same in this matter I feel warm and fuzzy and am glad I asked my question on this forum.  Big help.

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#11

Noctaem

Jul 20, 2014 18:22:59

You're correct that there's nothing called Move Action, there's just a rule that says you can move during your turn.  So I was using the wrong lingo there my bad.  I agree with the rest of your post as well.  I can't think of anything offhand that would replace your movement during your turn or when you ready to move as a reaction.

#12

Alpizarai

Jul 22, 2014 14:12:06

wow I got a little confused here. Can you move with a ready action then? Im guessing yes...

 

 

#13

Plaguescarred1

Jul 22, 2014 14:18:53

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#15

mrpopstar

Jul 22, 2014 17:06:06

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#17

mrpopstar

Jul 22, 2014 17:50:20

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