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#1 breakerbeam Jan 29, 2015 21:00:05	While in a battle with Intellect Devourers, my sorcerer with 7 int got hit with devour intellect and lost all his intelligence. He survived the encounter but is now essentially a vegatable. Outside of greater restoration and wish (we are too low level for this magic), my DM and I can't find any way to restore his intelligence in the rules.    Are there rules on ability damage we are missing? Otherwise we can possibly houserule something to keep my character alive.
#2 Kalani Jan 29, 2015 21:12:14	AFAIK, the only way to recover ability damage is Greater Restoration. The dev's forgot to include rules for natural healing of ability damage, although I would probably rule that all ability damage is healed on a long rest, citing a Spectre's Life Drain and an Otyugh's bite as evidence for why this should be so (the former reduces maximum HP until the end of a long rest, while the latter reduces maximum HP until cured from the disease).    Speaking of Otyugh's - their disease is the only example I can think of with a 24hr duration between saving throws, rather than "long rest".
#3 AaronOfBarbaria Jan 29, 2015 21:16:37	You are not too low level for a scroll of greater restoration. 5th level spell scrolls are on magic item table C, results of 76-85 on the treasure hoard table for Challenge 0-4 produce 1d4 items from magic item table C.   You aren't too low level for a headband of intellect, which would skirt the issue of having 0 intelligence and being stunned while you are wearing it... though there is the issue of attuning to something while constantly stunned, so that might not work out for reasons not related to level which are not too low of.   No rules on ability damage missed, no need for a house-rule - just need to use the treasure suggestions present in the book, rather than assuming your level has a severe impact on what manner of magic you are capable of finding when looking for it.
#4 Kalani Jan 29, 2015 21:44:16	There are also spellcasting services (PHB p159). While it may require a service to be performed, greater restoration should be available in a large city.   If your DM is being generous (or lazy) they could also assign a cost. If your DM takes that route, the cost for greater restoration in organized play is 450gp (ALPG p11). That should help them to determine a fair price for your campaign (esp. considering how low-wealth the current OP season is).
(Reply to #3) breakerbeam	AaronOfBarbaria wrote:
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#7 Illithidbix Jan 30, 2015 11:20:41	Mostly ability score damage is so rare that every source mentions how to regain it, and Greater Restoration (level 5 spell) specifies it cures ability score damage.   ... Except this seems to have been missed out of Devour Intellect   For comparision:   A Shadow's Strength Drain is until the target finishes a long or short rest.   The Hit Point Maximum loss from Wight, Spectre and Wraith's Life Drain and Vampire's bite lasts until the target finishes a long rest   The Hit Point Maximum loss from a Clay Golem's Slam lasts "until removed by Greater Restoration or other magic." (It's CR 9)   Like Kalani; I'd go with "until long rest" if it's not otherwise specified. (But I'd rule the Clay Golem is specific enough that it's not cured by rest, also as the Clay Golem is CR 9 and Greater Restoration is *just* within the capacity of Level 9 Bards, Clerics and Druids)   I think it would be a bit odd if you needed a 5th level spell to cure something a CR 2 creature does. (Amusing comments about CR 1/8 monsters requring Raise Dead to fix aside...)
#8 Slyck314 Jan 30, 2015 12:24:04	I don't think it was an oversight. I think the Intellect Devourer is a stand out as a creature with asymetrical lethality that carries across many levels and thats what makes it intersting. Its certainly not the best creature to use if you're simply playing by the numbers, but it can bring an interesting level of level of tension to an encouter when used right.
#9 1eejit Jan 30, 2015 12:27:26	Kill the vegetable guy and cast *Reincarnate*. That will get him a new brain.
#10 Orethalion Jan 30, 2015 13:42:19	1eejit wrote:
#11 Kalani Jan 30, 2015 14:26:19	I thought Charlie (Celeste) killed the wizard when he tried to kill Sam Winchester.
(Reply to #11) 1eejit	Kalani wrote:
#13 Orethalion Jan 30, 2015 14:37:51	1eejit wrote:
#14 Kalani Jan 30, 2015 15:10:18	Orethalion wrote:
#15 Orethalion Jan 30, 2015 15:16:17	Kalani wrote:
#16 Kalani Jan 30, 2015 15:35:57	The thing I like most about Supernatural, is that they don't take themselves very seriously. There are numerous episodes where they like to poke fun at their own lore - including (but not limited to):   Carver Edlund (whom many people believe to be God himself) writing a series of fictional teen horror novels based on the Winchester's misadventures. The Winchesters going to a Supernatural convention, and many of the cosplayers saying they aren't roleplaying Sam or Dean properly. An episode where Sam and Dean cross into our universe and are believed to be their actors. Sam and Dean think that Jensen and Jared are a couple of Douche bags, while Mischa is addicted to twitter and texting (this isn't far from the truth actually, in respect to Mischa at least).  A couple of reality-TV ghost hunters which call themselves the Ghostfacers - who show up on ocassion to the Winchester's ire... Pokes fun at those stupid haunted house reality shows. Recently, Castiel mentioning he likes texting.... and comments about Emoticons, alluding back to the episode where Sam and Dean met Mischa Collins (who plays Cas). And so on.
#17 Orethalion Jan 30, 2015 16:02:07	Kalani wrote:
#18 1eejit Jan 31, 2015 2:04:18	Plus the Trickster episodes, pure gold.
#19 Enevhar_Aldarion Feb 02, 2015 2:11:30	The thing about the Devour Intellect attack is that it specifically says "The target is stunned until it regains at least one point of intelligence." To me, this sounds like a temporary condition, allowing the Devourer enough time to use it's other attack to eat and replace the victim's brain, and not permanent Int loss.