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#1 Thank_Dog Oct 04, 2014 19:38:25	I'm confused. What is the new riding proficiency? Animal Handling or Vehicles (land)? Neither makes sense.
#2 Novacat Oct 04, 2014 19:40:42	I would say Animal Handling is pretty much exactly what riding is.
#3 Thank_Dog Oct 04, 2014 20:26:12	So you're saying that all people who ride horses are very wise?
#4 Novacat Oct 04, 2014 20:35:01	Thank_Dog wrote:
#5 Thank_Dog Oct 04, 2014 21:22:25	Novacat wrote:
#6 Novacat Oct 04, 2014 21:25:32	Thank_Dog wrote:
#7 MechaPilot Oct 04, 2014 21:26:52	Thank_Dog wrote:
#8 Thank_Dog Oct 04, 2014 21:40:30	With Wisdom as the riding stat, fighters & paladins, both the traditionally strong riding classes, now suck at riding.
#9 Novacat Oct 04, 2014 21:43:48	There's nothing preventing your fighters or paladins from putting a few points into Wisdom, especially if the player specifically wants them to be good at riding.   Plus, the proficiency bonus is a bigger influence on skills than the ability modifier, generally.
(Reply to #5) Overpromises	Thank_Dog wrote:
#11 MechaPilot Oct 04, 2014 21:49:04	Thank_Dog wrote:
#12 Kentus Oct 05, 2014 2:19:19	And there are cases, when a DM might call for a Dexterity (Animal Handling) check. The abilities which got stuck to the skills just covers about 95% of the uses, but if Strength (Intimidation) is allowed to intimidate with brute strength, then you can actually try to explain why another ability score should be used instead. But stay reasonable. ;)
#13 Strill Oct 05, 2014 2:43:34	Novacat wrote:
(Reply to #8) AaronOfBarbaria	Thank_Dog wrote:
#15 Jay_Ibero_911 Oct 05, 2014 6:58:44	There is no skill for riding. Anyone can just ride. Animal handling only applies to riding as far controlling the animal itself if scared, such as if the mount was the subject of a fear spell but the rider resisted. Essentially animal handling is just for getting a mount to do stuff beyond basic movement.
#16 iserith Oct 05, 2014 9:23:41	These kinds of questions strike me as a carry-over from other editions. Ability checks don't quite work the same in D&D 5e. Here, anybody can do anything. Just describe what you want to do and the DM will tell you how it works out. Sometimes he'll ask you to roll a die when he finds the outcome uncertain. So if you think you're going to be engaged in a lot of actions while mounted that have uncertain outcome and a chance of failure, then train Animal Handling. And always use good, thorough and interesting descriptions when taking action to try and get success without rolling.    Nobody ever fell out of their horse and looked like a chump prior to the Ride skill...
(Reply to #16) AaronOfBarbaria	iserith wrote:
#18 Timborama Oct 06, 2014 6:28:54	The new riding "proficiency" is having a beast of burden trained to carry riders.   Being better at it? Well, depending on the situation it may be Handle Animal or Vehicle (Land). Usually the former   So yeah, nobles trained to ride horses might have Handle Animal, but a peasant would not. They can actually both ride horses. But if they wanted said horse to do a trick or try to handle them in a certain condition, the noble would be better at it, unless the Peasent is much more wise than the noble and his training!
#19 Oraibi Oct 06, 2014 20:16:08	Thank_Dog wrote:
#20 Thank_Dog Oct 06, 2014 20:45:28	Oraibi wrote:
(Reply to #19) AaronOfBarbaria	Oraibi wrote: