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#1 daedel Jul 11, 2014 0:25:15	I am reading Basic rules now and would like to confirm a couple of things about rogues, surprise and advantage.   1.- Let's suppose the rogue hides successfully to ambush an orc.  Then there's a surprise round. Assuming the orc passes at rogue's side and he can attack him without previous movement, is it correct to assume the rogue can attack the orc and then move away from him without provoking ado? Because now surprise round gives you a full set of actions and being surprised implies the orc cannot take a reaction to perform ado.   2.- Being surprised doesn't confer disadvantage, but in the previous example, since the rogue in an "unseen opoonent", he will have advantage in the attack (and will be able to use sneak attack)   Am i correct?
#2 2Chlorobutanal Jul 11, 2014 0:45:37	1. The rogue should be able to move, attack the orc, and move away again without any AoO.  There are two cases:   A.  If the rogue wins initiative, he can move freely and attack at any time, then move away.  He can even "Dash" if he has Cunning Action.  The orc cannot take any reactions, including AoOs, until after his first "turn," on which he can perform no actions (because he his surprised).   B.  If the rogue loses initiative, even though the orc is surprised, the surprise will "wear off" before the rogue acts, allowing the orc an AoO if the rogue moves out of the orc's melee range.  However, if the rogue has "Cunning Action", he can choose to "Disengage" and take a normal amount of movement without provoking AoOs.   2. A. If the orc is standing next to a hidden rogue and didn't detect him, the rogue is free to attack with advantage and use Sneak Attack.     B.  If the rogue can move to the orc while remaining unseen (behind a wall, invisible, in magical darkness), the rogue can get advantage and thus Sneak Attack.   C. If the rogue has to move into the open to attack the orc, assuming your DM says that a surprised creature is 'distracted in combat' or rather 'unaware', and allows the rogue to approach the orc while hidden, he will also be able to use Sneak Attack.    Note that an enemy having disadvantage is not the same as the Rogue having advantage, and the Rogue must have advantage (or an ally) to use Sneak Attack.
#3 daedel Jul 11, 2014 0:58:02	2Chlorobutanal wrote:
#4 lawrencehoy Jul 11, 2014 3:20:06	daedel wrote:
#5 Jay_Ibero_911 Jul 11, 2014 3:23:59	daedel wrote:
#6 daedel Jul 11, 2014 4:15:24	Ugh, I didn't notice that part, thank you both for pointing it for me. Now it's clear, thank you.
#7 Archon007 Jul 11, 2014 5:57:36	daedel wrote: