Rogue: Cunning Action = Attack + Move + Dash/Disengage/Hide (again)?

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#1

lkwpeter

Sep 21, 2014 10:07:08

Hello,

 

I am not sure if I get the "Cunning Action" feature from the rogue right. Does ist mean:

 

1. Move  

     +  

2. Attack   

     +

3. Disengage (1x speed) / Dash (2x speed) / Hide 

 

 

That would mean that if you choose to dash for the cunning action you could move up to 3x speed!

 

Am I wrong?

 

Peter

#2

Plaguescarred1

Sep 21, 2014 10:39:40

No you're not wrong. The Dash action's effect stacks and if you can take it more than once, it each increase the distance you can move.

#3

mellored

Sep 21, 2014 11:03:17

Rogues are good at the hit and run.

#4

Yunru

Sep 21, 2014 11:39:41

But not as good as a monk with Cunning Action would be.

#5

AaronOfBarbaria

Sep 21, 2014 12:32:02

Minor corrections:

 

Disengage does not give you any movement beyond your normal speed.

Dash gives you one more unit of your movement Speed, not two.

 

So no, you can't choose to dash for the cunning action and move up to 3x your speed (2x your speed only).

#6

Prism

Sep 21, 2014 16:28:41

You would need to disengage before you move strange though that sounds

#7

jonathonhawke

Sep 21, 2014 22:29:41

Or you can:

 

1. Start turn (Available Move = Speed)

2. Dash (add Speed to available Move)

3. Cunning Action: Dash (add Speed to available Move)

4. Move (up to 3x Speed total for turn)

 

#8

lkwpeter

Sep 22, 2014 0:35:45

AaronOfBarbaria wrote:
#9

2Chlorobutanal

Sep 22, 2014 0:41:38

Yes.  The basics of 5e D&D combat movement are that you can move whenever you want as many times as you want on your turn, as long as you don't exceed your movement limit (normally your speed).

 

Also, actions can be taken in pretty much any order as well, so you can take a bonus action first, move first, or take your regular action first.

 

  • You could disengage, move 3 squares, attack, then move back 3 squares.
  • Or, you could move 3 squares, disengage, attack, and move back 3 squares.
  • You could also move 3 squares, attack, disengage, then move back 3 squares.

 

The only thing to consider is that you use the "Disengage" action (or bonus action) before provoking any OAs.  After you use it, the Disengage rules apply to the rest of your turn, no matter how many "times" you move.