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#1 PencilBoy99 Aug 26, 2015 6:52:49	1. Fighter's get 2nd Wind, which lets them recover HD Hit Points, resetting at the next short rest. Does this HD come out of their normal pool of refreshes (i.e., the reroll that everyone can do during their short rest? I would think not, since it would be lame.   2. FIghter's Champion archetype. This seems super underpowered compared with the other two options for fighter. What am I missing?
#2 Glimjack Aug 26, 2015 7:43:17	I think you're confusing Hit Points and Hit Die.   Second Wind restores HPs and has nothing to do with Hit Die, much the same way that Healing Word or Cure Wounds restores HPs and has nothing to do with Hit Die. So, no, Second Wind does not use any Hit Die.   Champions may be a bit bland, but they have some potent abilities. I wouldn't say they were underpowered compared to the other two martial archetypes. The Battlemaster gets some strong tactical choices but can't use them constantly, and whilst the Eldritch Knight does get access to spells, they are somewhat situational in their usefulness since the Eldritch Knight gets access to spells slowly, often meaning they're melee attack option is often a stronger choice.
#3 mellored Aug 26, 2015 8:02:56	Champion is slightly less powerful then battlemaster, but it's not going to be noticable in gameplay.  Your luck is going to have a much bigger impact. If you have a lot of buffs (advantage, haste, crusader's mantle, ect...) then it can be slightly more powerful.  Since crit range applies to every attack and bonus die, where battlemaster can't be multipled as easily.   Eldirch knight is more about utility, and is weaker then champion in combat.  Though having an owl familar scout out a possibly deadly trap, or dropping a fog cloud has it's uses.
#4 Tempest_Stormwind Aug 26, 2015 10:04:16	PencilBoy99 wrote:
#5 DemoMonkey Aug 26, 2015 12:41:36	Also keep in mind the Champions basic ability - better critical chance - effectively "scales up" every time they get an additional attack, because every extra attack gives them another chance to crit.
#6 jaelis Aug 26, 2015 17:26:06	Remarkable Athlete is pretty good too.
#7 Illithidbix Aug 26, 2015 18:04:44	Second Wind wrote:
#8 jaelis Aug 26, 2015 18:59:13	Also don't forget a crit is an autohit. So not only does it improve your chance to do extra damage, it can sometimes improve your chance to hit at all.
#9 Horwath Aug 26, 2015 23:51:47	jaelis wrote:
(Reply to #8) Danny_Montanny	jaelis wrote:
#11 Horwath Aug 27, 2015 8:41:38	Danny_Montanny wrote:
#12 jaelis Aug 27, 2015 8:53:29	Danny_Montanny wrote:
#13 Noctaem Aug 27, 2015 8:56:41	jaelis wrote:
#14 Tempest_Stormwind Aug 27, 2015 10:58:45	Huh. Good to know that - I suspected it was the case (couldn't see any of the exception text to say that "20 is autohit, but not other numbers"; such text was present in 3.X), but wasn't sure. I need to be more careful when I handle Champion calculations going forward - Improved Critical doesn't just increase the chance of a critical hit, it reduces the chance of a miss against extreme ACs. You know, like the big bad evil dragons that mythic champions often fight.
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