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#1 DaneVB Apr 16, 2015 21:40:47	Part of the Sentinel feat states: creatures within 5 feet of you provoke opportunity attacks from you even if they take the Disengage action before leaving your reach.   Which part of the feat takes precedent for the OA?  can creatures within 5 feet of you provoke opportunity attacks or do they need to leave your 10ft reach to provoke?  or is it both with this feat?   or does it just not work with polearms in general?
#2 AaronOfBarbaria Apr 16, 2015 22:38:06	The feat does what the feat does - creatures provoke opportunity attacks from you if they start within 5' of you and leave your reach, even if they take the Disengage action first.   That doesn't contradict when they actually provoke the opportunity attack, so it still happens when they leave your reach.
#3 FrogReaver Apr 16, 2015 22:42:54	Any rules relating to reach in this edition were horribly done IMO
#4 EmpactWB Apr 16, 2015 23:06:09	Opportunity attacks are only provoked when a creature leaves the reach of a hostile target (PH195). Taking the Disengage action prevents a creature from provoking opportunity attacks on the turn that they take it. The Sentinel feat overrides that for creatures that are within 5 feet of you.   Since Sentinel doesn't specify that a creature must start "within 5 feet of you", only be "within 5 feet of you", there are two ways to rule this.   A) If a creature gets within 5 feet of a character with the Sentinel feat and then leaves the character's reach, the character can make an opportunity attack as a reaction even if the creature used the Disengage action. This is where you stop for the more permissive ruling.   B) As option A, except that once the creature is no longer within 5 feet of the character with the Sentinel feat, they are no longer subject to the opportunity attack if they have taken the Disengage action.   It looks like B is the more technically correct ruling. So taking this to the conclusion, a character with a reach of greater than 5 feet and the Sentinel feat is shooting themselves in the foot. But I wouldn't argue with anyone who thinks A is more in line with the intent of the rules.
#5 lawrencehoy Apr 16, 2015 23:22:54	I agree with Aaron's statements, regarding the Sentinel feat.   As to the Reach rules for 5th Edition, I think it would be less troublesome if people understood that an increased Reach does not exclude the original Reach. Someone with a Reach weapon can still make use of a Reach of 5', in addition to making use of a Reach of 10'. In other words, wielding a pole arm (or other Reach weapon) doesn't limit you to only attacking creatures that are between 5' 1" and 10' away from you; it anables you to attack creatures that are up to 10' away from you.   Leaving someone's Reach, however, is referring to leaving someone's maximum Reach, at that time.
#6 Coredump00 Apr 17, 2015 7:59:51	Its even simplier than that.   Your reach is 5'.  It does not matter if you are holding a polearm or not, your reach is 5'.   IF and when you actually attack with the polearm.... then you have a (limited time only) reach of 10'.  Once that attack is over, you atill have your normal 5' reach.         This makes even more sense when you look at the PAM and AoO rules. AoO happen *before* the triggering action. PAM lets you take the AoO if the enemy gets within your *5'* range.... which makes sense because you can hit him when he is 10' away.  If the feat allowed you to AoO before he entered the 10' distance, it would mean you were hitting a target 15' away.....  doesn't make sense.
#7 Hamsterkill Apr 17, 2015 8:30:15	Coredump00 wrote:
#8 lawrencehoy Apr 20, 2015 1:19:19	Hamsterkill wrote: