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#1 phuzzee Sep 28, 2015 19:01:27	I was reading a guide on grappling and was wondering something, If I knock a creature pron and then grapple them, and drag them through spike growth do they take the 2d4 damage for every 5 feet you drag them through?? I searched the fourms but couldn't find any rulings on this. Any help would be great
#2 lawrencehoy Sep 28, 2015 21:29:18	There is no rule preventing damage from forced movement; both creatures would take damage for moving within the Area of Effect of the Spike Growth spell.
(Reply to #2) eyrieking	lawrencehoy wrote:
#4 lawrencehoy Sep 28, 2015 23:43:12	eyrieking wrote:
#5 Noctaem Sep 29, 2015 5:33:28	Being able to drag a grappled creature into damaging terrain or an area of effect without being subjected to the same effects is absolutely legal as long as the grappler doesn't enter the area in question.  The game very clearly states that two creatures cannot share the same 5x5x5 square or area of space (except in the case of extreme size differences).  What you're arguing is your personal dislike that this is possible.  Which I disagree with you about.  The grappler has already done a check to grapple, a check to move the creature and the creature could also get a check to avoid getting tossed off the cliff or dropped in the pit (catching itself, see acrobatics) or a save vs a magical effect (in the case of a spell).  I think you're just having a knee jerk reaction because you think this is somehow overpowered.  It's not at all, in fact it's a terrible choice considering the amount of ways the victim has to avoid this working and the action costs for the grappler.
#6 Noctaem Sep 29, 2015 5:38:47	phuzzee wrote:
#7 jaelis Sep 29, 2015 5:50:18	Noctaem wrote:
#8 Noctaem Sep 29, 2015 6:01:17	jaelis wrote:
#9 lawrencehoy Sep 30, 2015 23:24:15	Noctaem wrote: