Tying up grappled target

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#1

Deathspree

Jan 13, 2015 12:40:28

I'm familiar with 3.5 and Pathfinder and the ability to tie up a grappled target on a roll check and doing so while pinned up. Well, our DM  refuses to allow grappling due to the fact it is an unwilling target and rounds only last 6 seconds. Unfortunately there aren't any rules on it but the argument that a round is 6 seconds and it's an unwilling target seems to be the silliest reason not to be able to roll to tie up a grappled target.

 

Any opinions or insight possibly from a rules standpoint?

#2

mellored

Jan 13, 2015 12:44:08

This is the 5th edition forum... not sure if this is a 5th edition question or not...

 

But in 5e, you can knock creatures out easily enough.  Then tie them up.

#3

OoftaMeg

Jan 13, 2015 12:57:44

For better or worse, it's the DM's call.  For manacles, you can refer them to http://www.sageadvice.eu/?s=manacle

 

There aren't any official rules that I know of for tying someone up.  As mellored pointed out, you can knock them out.

#4

iserith

Jan 13, 2015 13:06:32

These are the relevant rules:

 

Grappling, Basic Rules, page 74.

Rope, Basic Rules, page 50.

Net, Basic Rules, page 47.

Grappled Condition, Basic Rules, page 106.

 

This would be my ruling:

 

Yes, short of any additional context that would complicate the matter further than the standard resistance to the attempt one might expect in a combat situation, you can try to tie up a grappled enemy. Grappling means grabbing or wrestling a creature, preventing their moving around the battlefield. An attempt to tie up the target would likely result in a contest with ability checks appropriate to the player's approach and the enemy's attempt to resist it.  A character might have advantage if the rope is fashioned into a lasso. If the player prevails in the contest, the enemy is restrained (Basic Rules, page 106).

 

But your DM may make a different ruling based on different criteria and still be acting within his or her role.

#5

Noctaem

Jan 13, 2015 13:09:45

iserith wrote:
#6

Yunru

Jan 13, 2015 13:21:53
I now want a lasso for my Fighter :P
#7

iserith

Jan 13, 2015 13:24:58

Noctaem wrote:
#8

Saeviomagy

Jan 13, 2015 17:25:24

You can also just threaten to keep hitting them uless they allow themselves to be tied up.

#9

jonathonhawke

Jan 13, 2015 22:31:10

A character with the Grappler feat could pin the opponent, rendering him Restrained.

#10

Doomaflatchi

Jan 14, 2015 15:52:46

If your DM questions the realism of effectively tying up a grappled creature in under six seconds, invite them to google "calf roping videos". 

#11

Illithidbix

Jan 14, 2015 19:07:50

Doomaflatchi wrote: