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#1 Talgrath Jul 19, 2015 17:51:00	So, looking at the vampire's "Misty Escape" ability, it says that when the vampire drops to 0 health they retreat to their resting place in misty form, the misty form can take magical damage though, so what happens if the vampire takes further damage in misty form while performing an escape then?  Are they now dead or since you can't go lower than 0 health does the escape simply continue?
#2 Lucas_Blackstone Jul 19, 2015 18:55:19	I don't think anything happens with additional damage since it is already at zero. There may be some rule I don't know that governs this but from the Shapechanger and Misty Escape rules in the Vampire entry, it seems like nothing else happens. So pretty much you need to damage it with sunlight or running water as the killing damage, since if it hits zero before then, Misty Escape triggers, and then it can't die until it resumes its normal form for the hour downtime to get to 1hp.
#3 Macv12 Jul 19, 2015 18:58:15	Wouldn't it perma-die if you damaged it to negative HP equal to it's maximum HP? Or does that not work for vampires?
(Reply to #3) Lucas_Blackstone	Macv12 wrote:
#5 Macv12 Jul 19, 2015 19:39:14	For some reason I was thinking mist form gave damage resistance.   I'd agree in that case. The point of Misty Escape seems to be that the vampire is immune to straightforward assault; you should have radiant damage, and if you don't have that, you should find the grave, and if you don't have that, you can set up an elaborate trap to keep the mist from reaching its grave. So you can't just fireball the mist.
#6 Saeviomagy Jul 20, 2015 20:22:52	Historically the idea is that you defile his coffins before you confront him, and only then can he be truly defeated. As a DM, I would probably rule that exposing the mist to running water or sunlight after the fact would be effective, but anything else will be completely ineffective.
(Reply to #6) Lucas_Blackstone	Saeviomagy wrote: