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| #1SzanderAug 12, 2014 10:31:10 | Magic Armor states that it rtesizes to fit the wearer. Since a wildshaping druid can choose to have equipment merge with his for or not will magic armor resize to fit a wild shaped druid? Our group has had extensive discussion on this and cannot seem to agree so we would appreciate some developer input as to an official ruling. Just to head off the GM comments, we have a rotating judge format in our group and we look to standardize rulings for consistency. |
| #2BatFettAug 12, 2014 14:45:13 | Just out of curiosity (I haven't seen the PHB yet)... what happens to equipment if you don't choose for it to merge with your form? |
| #3jaelisAug 12, 2014 16:28:52 | I don't think a wildshaped druid can wear armor. |
| #4OverpromisesAug 12, 2014 17:16:15 |
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| #5UndrhilAug 12, 2014 17:16:24 | Is Magic Armor a spell or are you referring to something like Chainmail +1 or something? |
| #6BatFettAug 12, 2014 17:25:59 | Thank you, Overpromises. |
| #7Caliburn101.Aug 13, 2014 1:59:14 | It resizes... it does not change overall shape.
So If a Druid shapechanges into another humanoid then there is no reason for the armour not to resize with the new form, although that would be a DM ruling as no time-factor is given for resizing. It could be quite reasonably houseruled within the boundaries of RAW that resizing takes a minute, or an hour of being in contact with the armour if the DM wanted it. Or it could change immediately.
Even with immediate resizing however, if the wearer turned into a Lion - then it would need to be absorbed as it is entirely the wrong shape. |
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| #9youtellataleAug 13, 2014 8:49:52 | You don't gain the ability to use any equipment while wildshaped. Therefore, it merges with you but you gain no benefit from it. This is the same in the playtest (all we have up to this point for the druid) or the document that does not exist but many people have it. They both say that you keep your equipment but gain no benefit from it. So my ruling would be that you keep your armor, but you don't get the +1 or whatever benefits, nor the actual armor benefits. When wildshaped, you take over the form and stats of the creature you wildshape into. There will certainly be feats/items that supercede this, but that's what you have to go on. It explicitly states this anywhere that's been released for the playtest and...otherwise, so if you ignore it that's up to you but this is stated quite clearly. |
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| #13ShinrahAug 13, 2014 10:39:01 | Under Wild Shape in the PHB.
You choose whether your equipment falls to the ground in your space, merges into the new form, or is worn by it. Worn equipment functions as normal, but the DM decides whether it is practical for the new form to wear the piece of equipment, based on the creature's size and shape. Your equipment doesn't change size or shape to match the new form, and any equipment that the new form can't wear must either fall to the ground or merge with it. Equipment that merges with the form has no effect until you leave the form.
So, if you wild shaped into a beast that could potentially fit into your armor it would work as normal... |
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| #15ShinrahAug 13, 2014 15:21:59 | Before you think something else, I do agree that there is virtually so beast that would be able to fit into a humanoid armor. However, if you happened to work it out with your DM that you could fit into a set of armor as a beast I don't think proficiency would come into play. After all you can just go buy barding for pretty much anything you want if you are willing to pay the hefty cost. |
| #16PolarisAug 13, 2014 15:32:11 |
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| #18PolarisAug 13, 2014 15:48:19 | Yeah, I didn't say it was a good idea
-Polaris |
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| #20SzanderAug 21, 2014 22:02:57 |
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