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#1
cstyln
Apr 13, 2011 4:10:33 Just need some clarification. I cannot create any 3rd party campaign content that is 4e related according to the GSL?

Earlier editions such as 3.0 or 3.5 are ok to create campaigns according to the GSL?

Sorry but I work at a refinery, not a law agency. Thanks.

Just to clarify, I'm not focused on making a profit although not against it. I'm looking to submit a concept in a different setting, using wotc's mechanics / classes / races / monsters / equipment / etc. The concept / setting being mine, obviously the rest theirs. They invented the wheel, I'm looking to put tires on it so to speak.
#2
bone_naga
Apr 13, 2011 11:13:49 I don't see any reason why you couldn't create a campaign using the GSL. I don't recall anything that prohibits it. Or just don't use the GSL at all, campaigns are mostly fluff anyway and then you have the freedom to modify existing races to fit that campaign world.
#3
cstyln
Apr 13, 2011 11:26:11 Well, i'm just trying to stay legal about it, from all the things i've read it seems some books are off limits in 4E. I think i am just overwhelmed on the legal aspect of it, might have to get a lawyer.
#4
cstyln
Apr 13, 2011 11:34:17 So are you saying that I can use their material if I modify it all?
#5
Matt_James
Apr 14, 2011 15:59:46 First, you should speak to an attoney if you have legal questions.

Second, you don't need to use the GSL if you are not using WotC intellectual property. Don't use their logo or specific monsters (re: Balor, et al.).
#6
bone_naga
Apr 14, 2011 18:48:24
So are you saying that I can use their material if I modify it all?

If you use the GSL then you cannot modify any WotC content. In other words, you cannot say that elves are cannibalistic demons. You would have to create an entirely new elf-like race, and call them demon elves or shadow elves or something. However, with the GSL you get to slap the D&D logo on your product.

If you do not use the GSL, then an elf can be whatever you want. So you get more freedom, but you don't get to use the easily recognizable D&D logo. Does that make sense?
#7
sembian_book_trader
Jun 02, 2011 19:40:20 I wanted to jump in here and ask a question as well. So, lets say I create a roughly generic world (which I have and published as well already) with elves, dwarves, gnomes and all that good stuff you expect in a fantasy world. Would you legaly be able to say "Useable with 4e D&D rules," without using the GSL? From what was said above it seems GSL is mainly if you want to slap on the logo. I ask that because I could also say "this setting is useable with such games as, D&D, Pathfinder, and other popular Pen and Paper games."

Lastly how do you sign on for GSL use? Sorry for the "newbieish" questions as stated above I'm terrible with law, I could go to a lawyer but I wanted to start my questioning here where the experts are.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 cstyln Apr 13, 2011 4:10:33	Just need some clarification. I cannot create any 3rd party campaign content that is 4e related according to the GSL? Earlier editions such as 3.0 or 3.5 are ok to create campaigns according to the GSL? Sorry but I work at a refinery, not a law agency. Thanks. Just to clarify, I'm not focused on making a profit although not against it. I'm looking to submit a concept in a different setting, using wotc's mechanics / classes / races / monsters / equipment / etc. The concept / setting being mine, obviously the rest theirs. They invented the wheel, I'm looking to put tires on it so to speak.
#2 bone_naga Apr 13, 2011 11:13:49	I don't see any reason why you couldn't create a campaign using the GSL. I don't recall anything that prohibits it. Or just don't use the GSL at all, campaigns are mostly fluff anyway and then you have the freedom to modify existing races to fit that campaign world.
#3 cstyln Apr 13, 2011 11:26:11	Well, i'm just trying to stay legal about it, from all the things i've read it seems some books are off limits in 4E. I think i am just overwhelmed on the legal aspect of it, might have to get a lawyer.
#4 cstyln Apr 13, 2011 11:34:17	So are you saying that I can use their material if I modify it all?
#5 Matt_James Apr 14, 2011 15:59:46	First, you should speak to an attoney if you have legal questions. Second, you don't need to use the GSL if you are not using WotC intellectual property. Don't use their logo or specific monsters (re: Balor, et al.).
#6 bone_naga Apr 14, 2011 18:48:24	So are you saying that I can use their material if I modify it all? If you use the GSL then you cannot modify any WotC content. In other words, you cannot say that elves are cannibalistic demons. You would have to create an entirely new elf-like race, and call them demon elves or shadow elves or something. However, with the GSL you get to slap the D&D logo on your product. If you do not use the GSL, then an elf can be whatever you want. So you get more freedom, but you don't get to use the easily recognizable D&D logo. Does that make sense?
#7 sembian_book_trader Jun 02, 2011 19:40:20	I wanted to jump in here and ask a question as well. So, lets say I create a roughly generic world (which I have and published as well already) with elves, dwarves, gnomes and all that good stuff you expect in a fantasy world. Would you legaly be able to say "Useable with 4e D&D rules," without using the GSL? From what was said above it seems GSL is mainly if you want to slap on the logo. I ask that because I could also say "this setting is useable with such games as, D&D, Pathfinder, and other popular Pen and Paper games." Lastly how do you sign on for GSL use? Sorry for the "newbieish" questions as stated above I'm terrible with law, I could go to a lawyer but I wanted to start my questioning here where the experts are.