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#1 gogocharlie Nov 06, 2009 13:26:11	Im in a game with a druid who really wants to look like a tiger. even when out of character. and we have decided to get her the garb of the hunting cat. however these items have metal. also the campaign is set in a steampunk theme. so we were wondering if there was a feat, or a variant/alternate that would allow her to use metal?
#2 oxybe Nov 06, 2009 13:55:44	pay a little more and have the metal bits be made of ironwood?
#3 darkspartan Nov 06, 2009 14:41:13	As a magic item (part of a set not less), I('m not seeing where the problem is. Druids are forbidden the wearing of metal armor, and are not required to eschew metal for any other purpose. If what I found here on the Wizards website, is what you're talking about, it'd be perfectly legal for the 3.5 Druid, or any other, for that matter. See, all the metal I saw in the three-item set was in the gauntlets, in the form of claws. All your Druid would need would be an EWP for punching daggers or Claws, depending on yout preference.
#4 gogocharlie Nov 08, 2009 15:06:51	If you read the description for the set it mentions the presance of steel in all 3 pieces, and the description for the mask specifically mentions that the tiger face is stretched over a steel mask. But thats all moot now because the GM said that she could get the ironwood equivalent for no extra cost. Im guessing that the steampunk environment caused a metal shortage, wich led to an expanding market for substitute materials. Wich furher led to a competative market and by result, cheaper alternatives. I have no clue why I felt the need to write that down... 0_o
#5 legdiwena Nov 13, 2009 3:12:21	The restriction is on armor and shield IIRC.  Faceplates are not part of armor.  Armor is what you wear on the body slot, anything else is not considered armor.
#6 kujihn Nov 13, 2009 9:15:22	The restriction is on armor and shield IIRC.  Faceplates are not part of armor.  Armor is what you wear on the body slot, anything else is not considered armor. Yeah ... otherwise where do you draw the line when it comes to amulets and collars worn around the neck and swords too around the hip or strapped to the back? :D
#7 salla Nov 13, 2009 15:28:49	The druid metal thing never made any sense.  Metal comes out of the ground, which is part of nature.  Where's the problem?
#8 entropy_judge Nov 13, 2009 20:01:55	The original incarnation of the druid was more-or-less anti-civilization, and the 'no metal' rule was based (I'm guessing) on the fact that any metal armor being used would have been *worked* metal, and therefore a product of civilization.  Doesn't explain why they got to use scimitars, though - probably because restricting them to wooden weapons would leave them with no source of slashing damage.
#9 bone_naga Nov 14, 2009 14:09:51	You could always just handwave it and say its ok. Not like the character's really getting any mechanical benefit from it, so why ruin his character concept?
#10 MrCustomer Nov 14, 2009 15:14:43	The druid metal thing never made any sense.  Metal comes out of the ground, which is part of nature.  Where's the problem? It's heavily refined perhaps? Metal goes through alot of processing to go from rock ore to iron or steel (or any other metal for that matter) Actually it is in part drawing from legendary sources where the fairy folk dislike metal. The real question is what would they think of plastic? lol
#11 kujihn Nov 14, 2009 16:30:19	The druid metal thing never made any sense.  Metal comes out of the ground, which is part of nature.  Where's the problem? Probably because animals and trees don't rely on metal armour for protection, so why should they? Another reason might be that metal armour requires maintenance, and that can be difficult when you're in the middle of nowhere. That and metal armour is heavy, and druids like to swim maybe? :D
#12 salla Nov 15, 2009 0:00:29	The druid metal thing never made any sense.  Metal comes out of the ground, which is part of nature.  Where's the problem? Probably because animals and trees don't rely on metal armour for protection, so why should they? Another reason might be that metal armour requires maintenance, and that can be difficult when you're in the middle of nowhere. That and metal armour is heavy, and druids like to swim maybe? :D Animals have claws and fangs, and trees have bark.  Their protection is already covered, and all armor needs maintenance, whether metallic or hide and leather.
#13 Neutronium_Dragon Nov 15, 2009 8:04:34	Scimitars: when druids were originally introduced, back in 1E days, there wasn't a sickle entry in the weapon table, so the scimitar was used as a proxy. By the time sickle finally made its way into the rules, the scimitar was embedded in the druid class design, and thus heirloomed into all subsequent versions.
#14 entropy_judge Nov 15, 2009 15:35:10	Wasn't there?  I don't have my PHB with me (only a 2nd Ed one), but I thought there was ....  I know the Unearthed Arcana introduced the Khopesh, and I thought the Deities & Demigods book had a couple gods with sickles.  It's been too long since I've seen the PHB, though.