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| #1mrdoobieJul 01, 2009 9:01:11 | This is in 3.5... With my current group, we are now halfway through a campaign, which means that we are beginning to plan our next campaign (characters, story, etc.) so that when we finish with this one, we're ready to jump into the next one. So I was talking with one of my fellow PCs, and I told him that I was thinking about either playing a rogue or a duskblade, whereupon he informed me that he wanted to play a duskblade gnome. I conceded the duskblade class to him because he very clearly had a definitive character idea, whereas I was still fishing for ideas. After awhile of thinking about what I'll play next, I suddenly came up with the idea of playing a Lawful Evil gnome warlock, and I suggested since we were both gnomes we could be brothers (I would be the little brother). He agreed. Our characters backstory isn't very defined as of yet, but from what we do have, our characters were forced to leave our hometown of Knebbit after my character murdered another resident. Originally the sentence was death, but Older Brother offered to leave as well and to watch after my character and keep him on a leash. Here comes the problem. I'm LE, while the Older Brother watching me is Chaotic Good, how can I have my character be obligated to obey him, without giving the Older Brother complete control over everything my character does? |
| #2shorteJul 01, 2009 9:13:14 | Interesting scenerio. I think there are a few spins you could put on this: Easiest I would say is: being Lawful, you know you did something wrong that by society you should be punished. However, your very own brother sacrificed his place in that society just to save your life. Just don't have your character go overboard on the evil and just view it like your character wouldn't even be here if not for your older brother so in return he will mostly (but not always) listen to him. |
| #3drackthorJul 01, 2009 13:12:08 | This may actually work in your favor. For some reason, people seem to play Lawful, especially LG, as strict, but Chaotic generally invokes a much more relaxed response. As long as you're not actively committing acts of evil in his sight, most likely the whip won't be cracked. Your gnome could simply let this sentence factor into your overarching treacherous plot, and you contritely accept that for now, you must kowtow to your brother's "authority". Best of luck, I think you've got the makings of a fun journey ahead of you! |
| #4zackblackJul 02, 2009 12:17:16 | This is in 3.5... ...and that's where you lost me. Why is a bunch of 3.5 "stuff" ending up on the main part of the forums lately? Isn't there a separate section for 3.5? |
| #5drackthorJul 02, 2009 16:20:54 | ...and that's where you lost me. Why is a bunch of 3.5 "stuff" ending up on the main part of the forums lately? Isn't there a separate section for 3.5? If I'm not mistaken, the powers-that-be allow 3.5 "stuff" to be discussed in this forum, as long as it focuses on the purpose of this forum: helping players with a problem. |
| #6ciaranJul 02, 2009 18:33:44 | ...and that's where you lost me. Why is a bunch of 3.5 "stuff" ending up on the main part of the forums lately? Isn't there a separate section for 3.5? Not lately, for quite some time. And yes, this is the place for it. |
| #7prator_the_goldenJul 03, 2009 14:42:48 | If you're lawful, the solution to this problem is a fairly easy one. Play one of those "Evil, but honorable" types. The sort of person who will stop at nothing to achieve his ends, but will never go back on his word, violate a contract, or betray his/her ultimate principles (which probably revolve around some kind of law). Darth Vader is a fairly good example of what I'm talking about. Now, the CG dude is your brother, and he's responsible for saving your life. On two counts, then, you have strong obligaitons to him. These bindings may chafe, but as long as you both live you'll have to abide by them. To do otherwise would be... unthinkable. You'll go where he goes and help who he helps, as long as it isn't overwhelmingly against your nature to do so. And, maybe, if you ever save HIS life, you can consider your debt to him repaid. |
| #8LordMorbienJul 04, 2009 4:21:46 | In the last Forgotten Realms campaign I played in, I was one of three brothers, all of whom were lawful evil, and each devoted to his brothers. We committed many evil acts on behalf of our scheming noble family, but never against each other. Just because your character is evil doesn't mean he can't be loyal to his brother. His brother could be the only person he actually cares about - - he might see him as a wishy-washy do gooder, but darn it he's FAMILY. Not wanting to upset his brother, your character makes a point of not letting him see any overt acts of evil, and takes pains not to get caught by any authorities, as that would also upset his brother. Could make for some fun roleplaying - - "Don't give me that look - - I made sure the orphans all got out before I torched the place - - ." |
| #9horatioJul 08, 2009 8:06:00 | Interesting.... I always viewed LE as thinking evil / evil with reason. Maybe your gnome had a good reason to murder someone? Maybe not objective reason, but for someone who is LE, subjective reasons may appear objective to them: Ok, so I killed him. And I had a good reason to do it too! They are foolish to let their morals endanger the whole community. And now my own brother, instead of seeing things how they are, is playing a martyr and buying my freedom with his own. So be it. We shall leave this god forsaken place, but one day, I WILL return and show these fools the truth! But first, I need to show the truth to my brother first. For what would I do with the village should I not be able to convince my own blood? |
| #10mrdoobieJul 08, 2009 9:36:19 | Interesting.... Yeah, well, y'see, that may work, except my character didn't have a good reason to kill the person. During my characters time in wizarding school, he fell in love with one of his classmates. After they both graduated, my character proposed to her and she said no. My character than proceeded to immolate her with eldritch blast. |
| #11horatioJul 08, 2009 10:23:28 | Yeah, well, y'see, that may work, except my character didn't have a good reason to kill the person. I see. That would be (in my point of view) more of a CE act. I'd say a LE person would try to intimidate her to be with him, or kidnap her or somehow persuade her parents to make her be with him etc. But. I'd still say you HAD a good reason to kill (why would you kill without a reason at all? That's clearly more of CN/CE approach). You had the RIGHT to kill her. She dared to insult YOU by saying NO! Why noone sees that when it's so obvious? (and continue the same way as before). Or make something else up ![]() |