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Armor Class Explanations?

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#1
peleron
Sep 03, 2010 16:52:57 Can someone help clear up my confusion?
I built a Human Paladin with the Character Builder program and gave him pretty generic stats..
STR 16, CON 12, DEX 11, INT 10, WIS 13, CHAR 16 and gave him Plate, Heavy Shield, and Longsword.

Now...AC from what I can tell should be 20 since he's 1st level he gets the generic 10, plus 8 for Plate, plus 2 for Heavy Shield.

The Character Builder program shows 20, but.....it shows 10 for generic, 8 for armor, 4 for Misc, then -2 for the Misc second box. What is going on here?
#2
frothsof
Sep 03, 2010 17:24:38 is that the armor penalty? like to movement and skill checks? id have to open to see what youre seeing
#3
tedium
Sep 03, 2010 17:52:12 Known issue, the CB applies the shield bonus twice, then subtracts it once.
#4
justinmypants
Sep 04, 2010 8:37:56 I noticed the same thing with my Warden in the middle of a game. It's the AC bonus from your heavy shield, no clue why it's being expressed as a negative number though. In the Character Builder, unequip your shield, you'll notice your AC will drop to 18 and the -2 in misc dissapears.
#5
Bigsta
Sep 04, 2010 23:45:11 This thread makes me feel old.

When I first started playing D&D a thread with this title would be someone trying to figure out why having a negative AC is better than a positive AC.
#6
CCS
Sep 06, 2010 18:20:55
Known issue, the CB applies the shield bonus twice, then subtracts it once.

You'd think after all this time they'd fix that.
#7
Neutronium_Dragon
Sep 07, 2010 2:37:08 It's a relatively recent error.
#8
FlashbackJon
Sep 08, 2010 16:39:52 As a developer, I'm assuming it's not an error but rather a quick fix consisting of ten lines of code to avoid writing ten pages of code.

Or they wrote ten pages of code as groundwork for new material (see also "Essentials"), but needed a ten-line fix to make shields work with the new groundwork before the official rollout.
#9
Cohen95
Sep 09, 2010 9:10:51
This thread makes me feel old.

When I first started playing D&D a thread with this title would be someone trying to figure out why having a negative AC is better than a positive AC.

#10
Centauri
Sep 10, 2010 14:29:05 Thanks for asking this. I thought I was going crazy.
#11
warrl
Sep 12, 2010 18:14:00
This thread makes me feel old.

When I first started playing D&D a thread with this title would be someone trying to figure out why having a negative AC is better than a positive AC.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 peleron Sep 03, 2010 16:52:57	Can someone help clear up my confusion? I built a Human Paladin with the Character Builder program and gave him pretty generic stats.. STR 16, CON 12, DEX 11, INT 10, WIS 13, CHAR 16 and gave him Plate, Heavy Shield, and Longsword. Now...AC from what I can tell should be 20 since he's 1st level he gets the generic 10, plus 8 for Plate, plus 2 for Heavy Shield. The Character Builder program shows 20, but.....it shows 10 for generic, 8 for armor, 4 for Misc, then -2 for the Misc second box. What is going on here?
#2 frothsof Sep 03, 2010 17:24:38	is that the armor penalty? like to movement and skill checks? id have to open to see what youre seeing
#3 tedium Sep 03, 2010 17:52:12	Known issue, the CB applies the shield bonus twice, then subtracts it once.
#4 justinmypants Sep 04, 2010 8:37:56	I noticed the same thing with my Warden in the middle of a game. It's the AC bonus from your heavy shield, no clue why it's being expressed as a negative number though. In the Character Builder, unequip your shield, you'll notice your AC will drop to 18 and the -2 in misc dissapears.
#5 Bigsta Sep 04, 2010 23:45:11	This thread makes me feel old. When I first started playing D&D a thread with this title would be someone trying to figure out why having a negative AC is better than a positive AC.
#6 CCS Sep 06, 2010 18:20:55	Known issue, the CB applies the shield bonus twice, then subtracts it once. You'd think after all this time they'd fix that.
#7 Neutronium_Dragon Sep 07, 2010 2:37:08	It's a relatively recent error.
#8 FlashbackJon Sep 08, 2010 16:39:52	As a developer, I'm assuming it's not an error but rather a quick fix consisting of ten lines of code to avoid writing ten pages of code. Or they wrote ten pages of code as groundwork for new material (see also "Essentials"), but needed a ten-line fix to make shields work with the new groundwork before the official rollout.
#9 Cohen95 Sep 09, 2010 9:10:51	This thread makes me feel old. When I first started playing D&D a thread with this title would be someone trying to figure out why having a negative AC is better than a positive AC.
#10 Centauri Sep 10, 2010 14:29:05	Thanks for asking this. I thought I was going crazy.
#11 warrl Sep 12, 2010 18:14:00	This thread makes me feel old. When I first started playing D&D a thread with this title would be someone trying to figure out why having a negative AC is better than a positive AC.