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Creating High Level Char - Do I have to pay for Rituals?

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#1
Delazar78
Mar 19, 2009 10:08:41 I'm creating a lvl 11 Wizard, and my DM tells me I will start with:
one lvl 12 magic item,
one lvl 11 magic item,
one lvl 10 magic item
and GP equal to one lvl 10 magic item.

I want to have 10-15 rituals... do I have to "buy them" with my starting GP?

Or am I allowed to have a few for free (like, one-two every level)?
#2
Janx_14
Mar 19, 2009 11:00:33 I've been wondering this too, i was helping a new player make her invoker (due to us being level 11). I just had gold spent on rituals, but it does seem odd.
#3
masteraaron
Mar 19, 2009 13:44:43 According to the PHB, in order to master a ritual you must pay its market value (page 298, under the "Buying a Ritual Book" section). It doesn't matter if you're copying the ritual from another ritual book or buying it from someone, you pay that price in either the materials needed to scribe the ritual or for the book. So, yeah, I'd say that you have to pay for rituals. I'm not sure if I'd charge this, though - high-level characters are already shorted money compared to having leveled naturally, IMO, so I'd just let the rituals in for free.
#4
Neutronium_Dragon
Mar 19, 2009 15:16:04 Normally you'd have to pay for them all.

As a wizard, your Spellbook feature gives you some rituals for free. At level 11 you'd have three 1st level rituals, two rituals of 5th level or lower, and two rituals of 11th level or lower via this feature. Those would be free. Any beyond that would have to be purchased.

However, it's not unreasonable to ask the other characters to split the cost for any rituals that are intended for the benefit of the group.
#5
CzarGarrett
Mar 20, 2009 14:00:49 Have you asked your DM this question?

I'd like to think that a reasonable DM would allow you a handful of rituals beyond the 7 you'd get anyway, on the basis that during 11 levels of play, you should have come across a few rituals to learn.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 Delazar78 Mar 19, 2009 10:08:41	I'm creating a lvl 11 Wizard, and my DM tells me I will start with: one lvl 12 magic item, one lvl 11 magic item, one lvl 10 magic item and GP equal to one lvl 10 magic item. I want to have 10-15 rituals... do I have to "buy them" with my starting GP? Or am I allowed to have a few for free (like, one-two every level)?
#2 Janx_14 Mar 19, 2009 11:00:33	I've been wondering this too, i was helping a new player make her invoker (due to us being level 11). I just had gold spent on rituals, but it does seem odd.
#3 masteraaron Mar 19, 2009 13:44:43	According to the PHB, in order to master a ritual you must pay its market value (page 298, under the "Buying a Ritual Book" section). It doesn't matter if you're copying the ritual from another ritual book or buying it from someone, you pay that price in either the materials needed to scribe the ritual or for the book. So, yeah, I'd say that you have to pay for rituals. I'm not sure if I'd charge this, though - high-level characters are already shorted money compared to having leveled naturally, IMO, so I'd just let the rituals in for free.
#4 Neutronium_Dragon Mar 19, 2009 15:16:04	Normally you'd have to pay for them all. As a wizard, your Spellbook feature gives you some rituals for free. At level 11 you'd have three 1st level rituals, two rituals of 5th level or lower, and two rituals of 11th level or lower via this feature. Those would be free. Any beyond that would have to be purchased. However, it's not unreasonable to ask the other characters to split the cost for any rituals that are intended for the benefit of the group.
#5 CzarGarrett Mar 20, 2009 14:00:49	Have you asked your DM this question? I'd like to think that a reasonable DM would allow you a handful of rituals beyond the 7 you'd get anyway, on the basis that during 11 levels of play, you should have come across a few rituals to learn.