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#1 firestarrage Mar 26, 2010 16:21:32	Okay, I am having issues figuring out the multiclass system in 3.5v.  Is there a step-by-step tutorial that easily explains it? I am trying to figure out how to do a couple characters: Half-Dragon 4lvl Fighter/2lvl Wizard Elf 4lvl Rogue/ 2lvl Bard Any ideas? Please help me.
#2 navar100 Mar 26, 2010 18:30:01	The trickiest part is what is the class taken at 1st level.  It makes a difference because 1st level determines your starting max hit die hit points and x4 skill points.  The fighter/wizard has more hit points if fighter is 1st level than wizard while the rogue/bard has more skill points if rogue is 1st level than bard. Once 1st level is determined, everything else really just falls into place.  When you gain a level, just add in normally as if single class for whatever class you level up in, such as BAB and saving throws. Anything specific you are having difficulty with?
#3 Calamity916 Mar 26, 2010 20:17:12	It's not hard. You just need to understand the concept of Character Level and Class Levels. Character Level is the sum total of all Class Levels that a character has and determines Character feats, Ability Score increases, and the amount of experience a character needs before leveling again. This info is located in Table 3-2, page 22 of the PHB. For example, an Elf Rogue 3 has 3 Character Levels and should have: At least 3,000 xp, need at most 3,000 xp to become level 4, have a maximum of 6 class skill ranks, have a maximum of 3 cross-class skill ranks, and 2 feats (not including feats granted by levels in a class).  Class Levels are how many levels of a specific class that you have. For example, an Elf Rogue 1/Bard 1 has 1 Rogue Class Level and 1 Bard Class Level. This in turn means that the Character Level of the Elf is 2 (Rogue 1 + Bard 1 = Character Level 2). If you decide on using a more powerful race or template (as I believe Half-Dragon is), then an additional step is required. I don't remember what the EL adjustment of a Half-Dragon is, so I will use a Drow for my example. In the case of the Drow, it has an Effective Level adjustment of +2. This means that for the purposes of gaining experience and treasure, a Drow Rogue 1/Bard 1 has a Character Level of 4. In all other ways, it is treated as a Character Level 2.
#4 Calamity916 Mar 26, 2010 20:20:28	Now, let's break down the Elf Rogue 4/Bard 2. At Character Level 1 you make an Elf Rogue. You acquire:  Rogue Weapon and Armor Proficiencies All simple weapons, hand crossbow, rapier, sap, shortbow, shortsword, and light armor.   Elven Racial Weapon Prof Longsword, longbow, composite longbow, and composite shortbow. Notice that I left off shortbow since you acquired it from your starting class. Base Attack Bonus +0 Hp 1d6+Constitution Modifier Save Bonus +2 Reflex (Table 3-15, page 49) Skill Points (8 + Int modifier) x 4. Class skills cost 1 skill point for every 1 skill rank increase, with the maximum rank of 4 at Character Level 1. Cross-class skills cost 2 skill points for every 1 skill rank increase, with a maximum rank of 2. There are formulas for this on page 66 but table 3-2 (page 22) already has this figured out. A most handy table.  Rogue Class Skills Too many to type. Rogue Features Sneak Attack (+1d6), Trap Finding. Character Level 1 Feat Any that you qualify for. Starting Gold 5d4x10 ----------------------------------------------------------------------
#5 inarai Mar 26, 2010 21:25:41	Or, to simplify:  You have whatever class features a character with your Class Levels would get. Add numerical features like BAB or base saves together.  Caster level for any given class is equal to your levels in that class.  You only multiply your skill points by 4 at your first character level. You basically just take a 4th level rogue and a 2nd level bard and combine them.
#6 johnkretzer Mar 26, 2010 23:49:43	Okay, I am having issues figuring out the multiclass system in 3.5v.  Is there a step-by-step tutorial that easily explains it? I am trying to figure out how to do a couple characters: Half-Dragon 4lvl Fighter/2lvl Wizard Elf 4lvl Rogue/ 2lvl Bard Any ideas? Please help me. What is the base race of the 1/2-dragon. Also they is a problem with Elf 4th level Rogue/  It a multiclass character's level become out of sync then you suffer a exp penalty.  Favored class effects this. A elf's favored class is Wizard...so a 4th level Rog/ 2nd level bard is out of sync...so you would suffer a exp penalty.
#7 inarai Mar 26, 2010 23:57:50	Okay, I am having issues figuring out the multiclass system in 3.5v.  Is there a step-by-step tutorial that easily explains it? I am trying to figure out how to do a couple characters: Half-Dragon 4lvl Fighter/2lvl Wizard Elf 4lvl Rogue/ 2lvl Bard Any ideas? Please help me. What is the base race of the 1/2-dragon. Also they is a problem with Elf 4th level Rogue/  It a multiclass character's level become out of sync then you suffer a exp penalty.  Favored class effects this. A elf's favored class is Wizard...so a 4th level Rog/ 2nd level bard is out of sync...so you would suffer a exp penalty.   Unless you're in the 99% of all groups that houserule that out for being silly.
#8 johnkretzer Mar 27, 2010 0:38:55	Okay, I am having issues figuring out the multiclass system in 3.5v.  Is there a step-by-step tutorial that easily explains it? I am trying to figure out how to do a couple characters: Half-Dragon 4lvl Fighter/2lvl Wizard Elf 4lvl Rogue/ 2lvl Bard Any ideas? Please help me. What is the base race of the 1/2-dragon. Also they is a problem with Elf 4th level Rogue/  It a multiclass character's level become out of sync then you suffer a exp penalty.  Favored class effects this. A elf's favored class is Wizard...so a 4th level Rog/ 2nd level bard is out of sync...so you would suffer a exp penalty.   Unless you're in the 99% of all groups that houserule that out for being silly. I am in a 1% group...
#9 Calamity916 Mar 28, 2010 21:27:09	Sorry to hear that.