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Healing the Dying

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#1
clig76
Apr 20, 2010 15:06:38
If an adjacent character passes a Heal check to heal his allie but the dying character has no healing surges left can he still use one?

I am thinking no, but just want to make sure.

#2
pluisjen
Apr 20, 2010 15:30:55 He can't. He's instead brought back with 1 hitpoint.
#3
MarkAtkinson
Apr 20, 2010 15:31:14 If a character has no surges remaining NO power that allows someone to regain HP by spending one will restore you beyond 1HP. That includes second wind and healing word.

A Heal check can do 3 things. 1) Allow a character to use their second wind. 2) Stabilize a dying character. 3) Grant a saving throw.

Even if the character has no surges remaining they can still recover by useing #2 or 3, or by a leader useing surgless healing like cure light/serious wounds.
#4
Breadley
Apr 20, 2010 18:49:14
If a character has no surges remaining NO power that allows someone to regain HP by spending one will restore you beyond 1HP. That includes second wind and healing word.

A Heal check can do 3 things. 1) Allow a character to use their second wind. 2) Stabilize a dying character. 3) Grant a saving throw.

Even if the character has no surges remaining they can still recover by useing #2 or 3, or by a leader useing surgless healing like cure light/serious wounds.

Not even with the 1d6+Wis mod added to the Healing word? Or do you not get that without spending the surge?
#5
MarkAtkinson
Apr 20, 2010 19:00:04
If a character has no surges remaining NO power that allows someone to regain HP by spending one will restore you beyond 1HP. That includes second wind and healing word.

A Heal check can do 3 things. 1) Allow a character to use their second wind. 2) Stabilize a dying character. 3) Grant a saving throw.

Even if the character has no surges remaining they can still recover by useing #2 or 3, or by a leader useing surgless healing like cure light/serious wounds.

Not even with the 1d6+Wis mod added to the Healing word? Or do you not get that without spending the surge?

Healing word says "spend a healing surge and gain an additional 1d6 hp" so the additional HP gained are dependant on the surge being spent.
#6
LordOfWeasels
Apr 22, 2010 7:40:45
If a character has no surges remaining NO power that allows someone to regain HP by spending one will restore you beyond 1HP. That includes second wind and healing word.

A Heal check can do 3 things. 1) Allow a character to use their second wind. 2) Stabilize a dying character. 3) Grant a saving throw.

Even if the character has no surges remaining they can still recover by useing #2 or 3, or by a leader useing surgless healing like cure light/serious wounds.

Not even with the 1d6+Wis mod added to the Healing word? Or do you not get that without spending the surge?

Healing word says "spend a healing surge and gain an additional 1d6 hp" so the additional HP gained are dependant on the surge being spent.

Yes, but a Dying character who has no Surges who "Spends a Surge" gets 1 HP.

Honestly, dude is Dying and has no Surges. I'd give him the Leader Bonus Healing.

(Also note: A non-Dying character who has no Surges who "Spends A Surge" gets NOTHING. And nothing + "extra" is still nothing.)

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 clig76 Apr 20, 2010 15:06:38	If an adjacent character passes a Heal check to heal his allie but the dying character has no healing surges left can he still use one? I am thinking no, but just want to make sure.
#2 pluisjen Apr 20, 2010 15:30:55	He can't. He's instead brought back with 1 hitpoint.
#3 MarkAtkinson Apr 20, 2010 15:31:14	If a character has no surges remaining NO power that allows someone to regain HP by spending one will restore you beyond 1HP. That includes second wind and healing word. A Heal check can do 3 things. 1) Allow a character to use their second wind. 2) Stabilize a dying character. 3) Grant a saving throw. Even if the character has no surges remaining they can still recover by useing #2 or 3, or by a leader useing surgless healing like cure light/serious wounds.
#4 Breadley Apr 20, 2010 18:49:14	If a character has no surges remaining NO power that allows someone to regain HP by spending one will restore you beyond 1HP. That includes second wind and healing word. A Heal check can do 3 things. 1) Allow a character to use their second wind. 2) Stabilize a dying character. 3) Grant a saving throw. Even if the character has no surges remaining they can still recover by useing #2 or 3, or by a leader useing surgless healing like cure light/serious wounds. Not even with the 1d6+Wis mod added to the Healing word? Or do you not get that without spending the surge?
#5 MarkAtkinson Apr 20, 2010 19:00:04	If a character has no surges remaining NO power that allows someone to regain HP by spending one will restore you beyond 1HP. That includes second wind and healing word. A Heal check can do 3 things. 1) Allow a character to use their second wind. 2) Stabilize a dying character. 3) Grant a saving throw. Even if the character has no surges remaining they can still recover by useing #2 or 3, or by a leader useing surgless healing like cure light/serious wounds. Not even with the 1d6+Wis mod added to the Healing word? Or do you not get that without spending the surge? Healing word says "spend a healing surge and gain an additional 1d6 hp" so the additional HP gained are dependant on the surge being spent.
#6 LordOfWeasels Apr 22, 2010 7:40:45	If a character has no surges remaining NO power that allows someone to regain HP by spending one will restore you beyond 1HP. That includes second wind and healing word. A Heal check can do 3 things. 1) Allow a character to use their second wind. 2) Stabilize a dying character. 3) Grant a saving throw. Even if the character has no surges remaining they can still recover by useing #2 or 3, or by a leader useing surgless healing like cure light/serious wounds. Not even with the 1d6+Wis mod added to the Healing word? Or do you not get that without spending the surge? Healing word says "spend a healing surge and gain an additional 1d6 hp" so the additional HP gained are dependant on the surge being spent. Yes, but a Dying character who has no Surges who "Spends a Surge" gets 1 HP. Honestly, dude is Dying and has no Surges. I'd give him the Leader Bonus Healing. (Also note: A non-Dying character who has no Surges who "Spends A Surge" gets NOTHING. And nothing + "extra" is still nothing.)